Home Inspection as a Second Career: Why Firefighters & First Responders Excel feat. Rhyan Miller

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Matthew freaking Brading.

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We are done with January and off to the races of 2026.

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How you doing, man?

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Man, I'm all right.

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Been busy.

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Just got back from a job recently, like, or just a few minutes ago.

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It's been busy lately, thank God, because, it was the slowest start to the year that I can
remember.

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But things are picking up now and looking pretty good.

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So yeah, I'm excited about 2026, man.

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Dude, we love to hear it.

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And guys today we are talking about something really, really interesting because when it's
a, when works a little bit slow, sometimes it's good to have a side gig and some, for some

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of y'all home inspections is the side gig.

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talked a little bit about this on Tik TOK.

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There were some comments on this mat going back and forth about, you do home inspections
full time?

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Can you do it part time?

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And there's a lot of people that do home inspections on the side.

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And I actually worked with one back in the day who was a firefighter for, for the city of
Baltimore.

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racking up a nice career there racking up a pretty good pension for his retirement and
then was also a home inspector in a spare time.

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He did a really great job with that.

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So we have a firefighter joining the show today.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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So last week we had or whenever it aired we had Christina green the last episode we had
Christina Greenfield on the show and we talked all about the importance of a healthy home,

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which was great and people are loving that episode.

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So if you haven't seen it go check it out.

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But but today we're more talking about safety hazards in relation to you know uh fire
hazards and things like that because as an active firefighter with the Beaumont Fire

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Department Rhyan Miller

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You have seen a lot of things in the field that I imagine, uh, you know, have, give you a
different perspective on things as a home inspector, being a home inspector and a

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firefighter.

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So first of all, welcome to the show, man.

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And, and so for, for, um, you know, people that don't know, uh, the name of your company
is first in inspections.

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So, you know, give us, give us just a quick idea of the, the name there.

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mean, obviously it's a play on first responder, I believe, but, but yeah, how did that
come about?

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It's a play on the firefighting aspect.

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know, um they call when you go to a fire and you're the first engine that gets there, you
are the first in engine and you see everything firsthand and you give the report back to

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the other people that's coming in.

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So everybody knows what to do when they get there.

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So um this kind of goes hand in hand with the home inspection.

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I'm the first person in there and I'm the boots on the ground for the buyer and I'm
telling them what's going on in there.

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So they know what to do.

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That's fantastic, man.

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Now we're glad you joined the show because there is some crossover right when it comes to
understanding a structure from the perspective of a firefighter and then under

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understanding a structure from the perspective of a home inspector.

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So we kind of want to pick your brain about how one informs the other and how both can
help you be better at both.

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But but before we do that, guys, we do have to do our drink of the day.

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Matt, we didn't sip on anything last week because it's dry January or for us, dryer
January.

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uh

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a dry portion of January for me.

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it.

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That's it.

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Yeah, like, there's a couple weeks maybe that we've towed the line on this.

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So I've got a drink for today that fits with dryer January's but go first man.

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What are you sipping on?

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well, mine does not fit with dryer January.

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I just went straight in, man.

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It's been a little while.

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I'm having uh a whiskey neat.

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I'm having a bourbon neat.

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This is a cool bottle.

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OK, this is it.

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I mean, it's a cool bottle and it like literally is a cool looking bottle.

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Right.

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This is called New Riff.

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This is their single barrel bourbon.

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It's only about 50 bucks.

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It's a relatively new bourbon on the market.

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uh Sits at about.

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111 proof and so it's pretty stout.

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It's a nice drink though.

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It's a good ball.

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for a good price.

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So Cheers.

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man.

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Yeah, cheers to you on that.

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Rhyan, what are you sipping on?

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are keeping it healthy.

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Trying to get into that gym a little bit more so less on the bourbon but I got a nice
little blueberry ginger kombucha over here and that's what I'm sipping.

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It's got a little alcohol content maybe like 0.004 you know somewhere in there.

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know how you know how that would be good with some bourbon in it.

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Just kidding.

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Just kidding.

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I respect that.

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I respect that.

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I haven't had a drink in a minute.

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So this is, you know, well deserved, I think.

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really doing my best to, be healthy, to up my, my water intake, to stay hydrated.

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Cause I've been hitting the gym hard to see in some good results.

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And, uh, you know, it is, it is dryer January.

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So I, I have right here, Ranch Water because it's water, right?

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Like this is this, this is, this counts, right?

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It's only 80 calories.

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It's only 4%.

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It's

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before you guys go knocking me, want you to know like this is mostly water too.

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There's an awful lot of water that goes in the bourbon process distilling.

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It's all about water.

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If it wasn't for the water, we wouldn't have it.

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the only water that's not in there is the angel share, you know, that's it.

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Yeah, but I feel like it says water.

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you know, yeah, that's it.

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So cheers to y'all.

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Cheers to y'all watching.

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And guys, let's jump into it.

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So Rhyan, right off the bat.

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You've already told us about the name uh first in inspections, but what did you want to be
a home inspector?

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What kind of which came first the firefighter or the home inspector?

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And what was your thought process and integrating both?

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Alright, so definitely the firefighter came first.

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I was a young kid getting out of school.

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I didn't really have any ideas as to what I really wanted to do.

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So school just like this big puzzle to figure out.

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And I always knew I was a real physical person and like hands on kind of guy.

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So I heard about firefighting and heard how much they paid.

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It wasn't a crap ton of money, but it was it was still more than what I know people were
getting paid at the time.

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So I was like, let me try it out.

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I went to the academy.

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I loved it.

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Absolutely loved it.

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And I've been doing it for 15 years now.

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Well, thank you for your service as a firefighter.

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That's a really important thing, We need you guys out there.

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I know it's a dangerous job, so I definitely appreciate that.

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Absolutely, absolutely.

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So like, I mean, we touched on it a little bit, but I mean, I got to know like in
specifics, how has being a firefighter like changed how you would go about being a home

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inspector?

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Man, so with being a fire, I've seen so many house fires and like the ways that they start
and all this stuff like that.

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So it definitely makes me go into home inspection with a fire safety kind of mindset.

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um So I go in there and I'm looking at the dryer vents.

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I'm looking at the electrical components at home a lot more closely.

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I wouldn't say more than the average inspector because

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Everybody has to have some kind of sense of safety when it comes to doing the inspection
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But I see more firsthand of what can happen if it isn't right.

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So um I'm extremely diligent when it comes to looking at things like that now because of
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ah

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and and and like dryer vents.

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I feel like you had a video a long time ago because you used to used to post quite a few
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I miss your videos, man.

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That's actually how me and Rhyan know each other is just the social media.

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We're pretty close to the same area, right?

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I mean, aren't you living in Houston too now?

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Okay, so so.

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Yeah, I'm up north in spring.

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But there, think when we first kind of started chatting, you were I think living down
there in Beaumont or something like that.

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And, um but, bait baiting.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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Yeah, I've seen a ton of business in Baytown.

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I still continue to do that.

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Even when even before I realized that you moved, but I still do anyway.

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But um

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But yeah, so we met each other through social media and I would see some of these videos
that you had posted.

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You're good at it, man.

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It was good stuff.

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But I remember specifically and what was intriguing to me and kind of what I wanted to
bring to the show was, you know, the fact that you have shown videos of things that happen

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as a direct result of things we inspect uh such as a clogged dryer vent.

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I think there was one in particular that you had that showed a house fire that happened
because of a clogged dryer vent.

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Am I mistaken?

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No, you're absolutely right.

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It was one that it completely ate up a whole side of the house uh Rip the wide open is
unlivable uh and I guess we need to be more weird like the What's those the knob and tube

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electrical systems that you we sometimes run across those as inspectors It's not often but
we do and I've seen so many fires with those

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Not so much in the attic space too, which is kind of a scary thing.

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They're usually in the walls in the wall cavity.

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Those.

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Yep.

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Can't even see what's going on back there.

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So oh for sure.

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Nice, especially in places that have older homes.

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uh I had the pleasure of seeing a renovated house.

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Gosh, this thing was almost 100 years old now in East Nashville.

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uh The builder, he was a drummer here in the city.

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I don't even know which band he was with, but just took to flipping properties around
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And this was one of those where they actually did it right.

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ah Where you could see that the old Nobitu was there, but it was abandoned.

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was, you know,

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correctly removed.

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You see the new Romex that was properly run.

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ah It was one of those where it's like, okay, you you have these little hints at the
history of the home, but it's at least, you know, it wasn't this mess where you see people

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trying to jumble three different generations of wiring together at one junction box.

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It shouldn't be there, you know.

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So it was it was cool to see.

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But yeah, I I'm definitely wondering man.

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So with home inspection, you said firefighting came first.

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What what led you to home inspections?

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And what made you realize that this was going to be a great complimentary complimentary
side career?

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So I was buying my first house and got an inspector to come over.

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He did the inspection.

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And then after he left, I just felt like I could find more things in this in this house.

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I started going through the house, man, just looking for stuff.

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And I'm finding stuff as we live there, you know, over the years.

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And I'm like, how did he not see?

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So it just got me like.

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ate up inside.

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I wanted to know everything there was to know about it and I just deep dove into it and
eventually came out actually doing it.

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It like I'm I want to do this for people because I want them to be informed just how I
wanted to be informed when I bought my first house.

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So yeah.

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Get on you, man.

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we touched on like how being a firefighter has had an effect on you as a home inspector,
but how has there been any effect there like the other, the other way around, like on the

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flip side, like being a home inspector and how does that affect you being a firefighter?

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Absolutely.

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So we see all kind of different problems all the time, like buzzing electrical panels and
arc and wires underneath the house and, you know, grounding, grounding rods being red hot

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because they're getting so much current through them.

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And before I was a home inspector, had no idea what any of that stuff was doing or why I
was doing what it was doing or how to.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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It's just gold refired.

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Put it up.

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Building construction I'm talking about like low how load is transferred from the roof
into the foundation and I had no idea how any of that worked but now being an inspector

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and knowing the science behind these things actually Improves my firefighter knowledge
because I'm like I know where to be and where not to be You know what I mean?

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I know where a heavier fire low would be

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You probably got the rest of the team that's looking at you now going, Hey, so why so can
you explain why this this happened over here?

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Like you probably know, right?

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Are you like the the expert in the room now?

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Exactly.

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I feel like an expert with certain things.

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There's still plenty of people way above me.

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That's the home inspector thing though.

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We all feel like we're experts, right?

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It's funny though, I never saw that coming.

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I was excited to talk to you today because obviously like the two things together seem to
compliment one another like Brad has said a few times here.

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I think that that's obvious.

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to me, I go straight to safety hazards like fire hazards and electrical hazards and things
like that.

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Things that could cause a fire.

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But I never thought about, I mean,

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You just went right there about the structural aspect of it like knowing how we know more
about load paths and how that can help you as a firefighter like you said know where to be

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and we're not to be That's actually huge and that didn't cross my I know we're gonna talk
about that today but but I think that's huge and I can see how that really played a role

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and how you probably Know a lot more about that now after your your training as a home
inspector than you did before when you're just firefighter now

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You know in Texas at least you have to be licensed and uh if you're in a trade um For a
certain period of time it can uh Lessen the amount of training that you have to have to

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acquire your license How does does that have does being a firefighter have any effect on
you getting license?

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I didn't think so I didn't make so I mean it seems like there's a lot of boots on the
ground training going on when you're firefighting that it seems like it should lend itself

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a little bit, but uh

230
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How long have you been licensed as a homesviker?

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About four years now.

232
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Okay, okay, wow.

233
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Somehow I thought it was longer than that, just because it feels like I've known you for a
long time.

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I know, man, it's been a while.

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It's genuine friendship there, you know.

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m

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That's right.

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That's right.

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I can't imagine though, uh like when I go places, I still, you can't shut the home
inspector brain off, right?

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uh Like I was up in Cincinnati shooting a video for, for porch recently, and I walked
outside this downtown, you know, a hundred plus year old buildings.

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And uh you can see the, the, the structural uh tensioning devices that are in the
exterior.

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There's those stars.

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you see on the brick wall on the outside that's basically those are rods going through the
center of the building that's tying the framing together to keep things from bowing out

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and falling apart.

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But anyway, I can't shut my brain off sometimes when I'm when I'm looking around different
places to the point that like friends around me are like, dude, shut up, like what nobody

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cares right now.

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But

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been told many times stop inspecting my house.

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That's it.

250
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Yeah, see, I was at my friend's house last night.

251
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And I'm like, you could have you could have maybe cut the deck boards a little more a
little more square over here.

252
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But okay, you know, at least you save some money doing it yourself.

253
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But

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that bad?

255
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I'm sorry.

256
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I'm sorry.

257
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You think you got that bad?

258
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I have to go to patients house every day.

259
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Like it's not just your friends or your family.

260
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It's like everybody that calls 911.

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We go there to their homes.

262
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And so every time I'm like, it's almost like I got to tune myself back in because I'm to
be there for the patient, but I'm looking at their roof.

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I'm like, that's a lifted shingle.

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uh

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whammy for you, man, like, because you're looking for fire safety.

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You're looking at structure.

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You're like, I mean, you're just constantly on alert, aren't you?

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When you go places like that.

269
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Absolutely.

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does this like come to play like whenever you're doing like the wrap up with the clients,
um like knowing what you know about what can happen with some of these things, you know,

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how do you, cause a lot of our job is delivering this information to the buyer, right?

272
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uh Not necessarily in a report fashion, but sometimes uh in a verbal fashion.

273
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Now, how does like your knowledge of this stuff affect

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how you like are dealing with clients on a verbal basis and like what's going in your
report.

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Like, you know, are you putting like extra emphasis on things just because of what you've
seen?

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How is it that you balance that without being like some type of alarmist?

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ah I think the best practice is just to shoot it straight, shoot it straight down the
middle, give the people the facts, and then let them decide on what they are willing to do

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and what they're willing not to do.

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oh

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As far as like big, big hazards like uh burglar bars, we're talking about zinco panels,
stuff like that, that are known fire hazards.

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I let them know why it's a hazard.

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I don't just say this is a hazard.

283
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You know, like you might need to get that looked at like, no, listen, ma'am, this panel,
it's under it's like this.

284
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They want to replace because the breakers don't trip.

285
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And if they don't trip, you know, it can heat up and cause a fire.

286
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I just want you to know, understand that.

287
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And I just go from there.

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what's going to come down first when it does ignite.

289
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Yeah.

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Can you imagine that?

291
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So this is going to start a fire and that's going to affect this load bearing member right
up here.

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When that falls, then I can see it going down a whole rabbit hole.

293
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standing over here, you know.

294
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That's Yeah.

295
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Yeah.

296
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Okay, yeah.

297
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Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask fix, man.

298
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It's like, do realtors trust you more when you point this stuff out?

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Or like, does that does being the firefighter downplay the deal killer kind of vibe?

300
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Or like, is it by you more respect?

301
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How's that work?

302
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I'm glad somebody else knows the phrase deal killer because this is like, I thought I was
the only one that knew that phrase.

303
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I'm like, I'm not trying to be a deal killer.

304
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I'm just telling people what it is.

305
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I really don't even think that phrase should exist.

306
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You know what I mean?

307
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It's like, we are here to give the people what's wrong with the home.

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We were here to give them the facts.

309
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We give them the facts.

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As long as you do it in like,

311
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Like I get there some inspectors that really sometimes don't know how big of an issue
something is and they may blow it out of proportion.

312
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I get that guy.

313
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He needs to be educated, need to educate himself some more on the subject matter.

314
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But for people that are experiencing shooting people how it is, and I don't think that
should be an issue for anybody.

315
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I don't, I don't disagree with that at all.

316
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mean, like, I kind of think it's, I think the whole deal killer thing is funny.

317
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We had a, um, do South Brad on a couple, a couple of episodes ago.

318
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He's his license plate says deal killer.

319
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uh Yeah.

320
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He just lays into it, which I think is kind of funny too.

321
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Like, um, but the fact of the matter is that I can't remember who said this.

322
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I mean, many of us have probably said it at some point, but you know, the homespitter
doesn't kill a deal.

323
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The house kills a deal.

324
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That's it.

325
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a lot of truth in that because like it's what's wrong with the house.

326
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I do think that the delivery of information, which I, I mean, when, when, people ask me,
you know, what they can do to be a better inspector or, or, um, uh, you know, what, what,

327
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uh, you know, tips I have for them.

328
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I really, a lot of times try to focus on, you know, improve the way you're delivering this
information because you know, it is important to deliver the information in a way and not

329
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everybody takes it the same.

330
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Like you gotta, gotta read people a little bit.

331
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figure out how they're going to be because I've talked to some people before about, you
know, a hazard that was kind of out of their realm of knowledge.

332
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You know, maybe it's an electrical thing or something.

333
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They're like, is that bad?

334
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And I'm like, well, I it's not great.

335
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You know, this needs to get done.

336
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And then I've talked to some people about, well, you you've got some missing sealant
around some of your windows and they go, you know, what are we going to do about that?

337
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Like who fixes that?

338
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It's like, whoa, mean, like, hold on.

339
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Like, that's not really that big of a deal.

340
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And so, you you got to kind of read the room a little bit and see who you're talking to.

341
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But I think, you know, it is important like to to not go out of our way to scare people.

342
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I'm not wearing a chip on my shoulder.

343
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I just want to give you the facts and I want to shoot you straight and answer any
questions that you have about, you know, these issues.

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I think there are some blatant things like you said, and I feel like you kind of probably
drive this home even more so than I do.

345
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But like there's some things that are just a straight up hazard.

346
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There's some things that you almost feel like you're going to go like this is going to
start a fire.

347
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Like it's not a matter of if it's a matter of when if you don't get this handled, there's
trouble around the corner.

348
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There's some things that go there, but that's very few items.

349
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And I mean, it's not a downplay things that are wrong with houses.

350
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Um, but I think like, you know, we've got to deal with people's concern level and
everything, uh, because it's okay.

351
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Somebody said, I can't remember who was, who was it said it's not.

352
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the home inspector that kills houses.

353
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It's the house.

354
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But the truth is, I think it's the buyers themselves.

355
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Actually, it's everybody.

356
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It's the understanding of information between the buyer, the real estate agent
representing them, the home inspector, and then just the issues that the house presents.

357
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And so, I mean, I think it's a combination of all of that stuff.

358
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But I mean, yeah, I think we get called bill killers a lot.

359
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I don't think it's quite fair.

360
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I got a, this isn't patting myself on the back, I've, I maybe had.

361
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I would say two or three people tops and gosh, 14 years of doing this, who, you know, said
or alluded to the fact that I killed the deal.

362
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And a lot of that, the reason for that high success rate and never hearing that implied
about myself is simply because it's like, I went out of my way.

363
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The one thing that we can control is how we communicate stuff.

364
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And I went out of my way to make sure that I communicated things well and in a way that
was like not inspiring fear, you know, and don't again, don't

365
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downplay things that don't need to be downplayed, don't upplay things that don't need to
be upplayed.

366
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But Rhyan, let's actually talk about that.

367
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What are some things as a firefighter that you see realtors and home buyers kind of
downplay that are major safety issues?

368
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And how do you go about communicating that to them?

369
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Burglar bars, burglar bars, burglar bars.

370
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Those are some huge safety issues.

371
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Key deadbolts.

372
00:22:47,435 --> 00:22:49,206
Yes, yes, absolutely.

373
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Egress and us getting ingress, you know?

374
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It's tough.

375
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So I get, like some people live in some neighborhoods, they're pretty rough.

376
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um

377
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So you kind of got to pick your poison there.

378
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But if it were me, I would rather choose none on my windows whatsoever.

379
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then absolutely, absolutely.

380
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And then the the dry vents, of course, those those things clog up.

381
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That's one of the bigger things that's happening that happen around.

382
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But a lot of times fires are really caused by, you know, human error or.

383
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faulty appliances even, you know what I mean?

384
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Like it's stuff that gets put in the home after we inspect it.

385
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it's like y'all putting in all these DIY projects and stuff like that.

386
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really will, you know, if you don't know what you're doing, you can set it up and
properly.

387
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And, you know, I just caution against stuff like that.

388
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um

389
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Matt, that kind of circles back to some stuff that Christina was saying last week, which
was essentially when it comes to, you know, in her case, clean homes, one of the biggest

390
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factors and maybe the most critical factor is the homeowner themselves in terms of the
overall cleanliness and how a house stays clean and healthy.

391
00:24:08,404 --> 00:24:17,812
ah But same thing here when it comes to safety and removal of fire hazards or prevention
of fire hazards, it all comes down to who's in the house.

392
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You know, you were talking about the dryer vent and I know this is one of those hot
topics, man.

393
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I go back to it a lot because I mean, obviously like from your experience and not you've
seen it, you know, you've seen the problems and that's, that's always one thing that we as

394
00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:37,052
it's kind of one of those things where I think that the general public overlooks it as
being a, a hazard.

395
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And as inspectors, we're kind of honed in on this.

396
00:24:39,734 --> 00:24:47,988
The thing is, um, you know, I do a lot of new, you probably do to do a lot of new
construction inspections where they leave a screen on the dryer vent.

397
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This is a big problem.

398
00:24:49,586 --> 00:24:57,008
And uh I remember one recently, and this is something that I really feel like needs to be
addressed here.

399
00:24:57,769 --> 00:25:03,750
Recently, well, I did an 11-month warranty probably a few months ago on a house.

400
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A year prior, I did the final inspection on that house.

401
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And when I was on the roof, I found a screen on the dryer vent.

402
00:25:10,753 --> 00:25:16,014
Now, there's a couple of different schools of uh remove the screen when you find it.

403
00:25:16,434 --> 00:25:18,085
or leave it and report on it.

404
00:25:18,085 --> 00:25:22,139
And I'm more of a blanket across the board most of time.

405
00:25:22,139 --> 00:25:24,661
I'll leave things the way I find it and report on it, period.

406
00:25:24,661 --> 00:25:29,245
um And especially this new construction stuff, it's their responsibility.

407
00:25:29,245 --> 00:25:37,331
I do that because I want them to know that it was left that way so that they can send
somebody up there to correct it so that maybe that problem won't happen again.

408
00:25:37,331 --> 00:25:40,984
um And so in this case, I found a screen on it.

409
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I reported it.

410
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Because the screen can just pop right out, right?

411
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But I left it.

412
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I reported on it, told the buyer about it.

413
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And I mean, I didn't like make it seem like a huge problem.

414
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Like, like, hey, this is going to catch fire.

415
00:25:54,751 --> 00:25:56,642
But I was like, hey, they left the screen on there.

416
00:25:56,642 --> 00:25:58,293
The dryer does not need the screen.

417
00:25:58,293 --> 00:25:59,383
It can collect lint.

418
00:25:59,383 --> 00:26:01,274
It's going to affect the performance of your machine.

419
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It can be a fire hazard.

420
00:26:02,625 --> 00:26:03,936
Like I said, it probably just like that.

421
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Right.

422
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ah And then of course, there was a lot of emphasis put on the in the report.

423
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Go back a year later.

424
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They had me come back a year later to the warranty inspection.

425
00:26:11,850 --> 00:26:15,582
I go up on the roof and that screen is still there and it's filled with lint now.

426
00:26:15,918 --> 00:26:19,338
And I'm like, all right, well, clearly the builder's not going to remove it.

427
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So I'm going to just do it.

428
00:26:20,441 --> 00:26:22,042
And so I grabbed a pair of pliers.

429
00:26:22,042 --> 00:26:32,367
I pulled it out and I took the screen and all that lint that was in the screen inside and
showed her, told her the whole story about how I found it last time and they didn't remove

430
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it.

431
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And she looked at me and she, she clearly was not very happy.

432
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She was like, she wasn't, she wasn't vocal about it, but she clearly was not very happy
with what I was telling her.

433
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And it wasn't in a way where she was mad at the builder.

434
00:26:46,896 --> 00:26:48,787
So I was like, okay, what's up?

435
00:26:48,787 --> 00:26:50,939
You know, like what, was going on here?

436
00:26:50,939 --> 00:26:54,127
And she goes, well, the builder told me that that was supposed to be there.

437
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That was, that was code required.

438
00:26:56,882 --> 00:26:57,683
Wow.

439
00:26:57,742 --> 00:27:01,810
that it was code required for a screen to be on the driver.

440
00:27:03,498 --> 00:27:13,896
Even though the vent itself literally is labeled remove screen for dryer, which even if
the code said it was supposed to be there, the device saying remove screen takes that

441
00:27:13,896 --> 00:27:14,858
right out of the picture.

442
00:27:14,858 --> 00:27:16,954
go with the manufacturer instructions.

443
00:27:16,954 --> 00:27:26,334
And, uh, but, but the builder, instead of sending somebody out there to take it, they left
them in a situation that could have been a fire hazardous situation by just convincing

444
00:27:26,334 --> 00:27:28,654
them, them that it was up to code.

445
00:27:28,654 --> 00:27:29,634
showed her the Lent.

446
00:27:29,634 --> 00:27:30,354
I gave her the screen.

447
00:27:30,354 --> 00:27:30,994
I was like, well, you're welcome.

448
00:27:30,994 --> 00:27:32,394
I can go put it back if you want me to.

449
00:27:32,394 --> 00:27:33,554
I really don't want to.

450
00:27:33,554 --> 00:27:35,474
She told me to leave it, leave it like that.

451
00:27:35,474 --> 00:27:40,754
But anyway, um, yeah, that's the builder convincing somebody that it was okay.

452
00:27:40,754 --> 00:27:42,034
Can you believe that?

453
00:27:42,676 --> 00:27:44,282
Actually, I think we probably all can.

454
00:27:44,282 --> 00:27:45,702
That's the idea here.

455
00:27:45,702 --> 00:27:46,288
right?

456
00:27:46,288 --> 00:27:47,340
I don't want to believe it.

457
00:27:47,340 --> 00:27:49,475
That's a broad don't want to believe that.

458
00:27:49,475 --> 00:27:50,247
That's the case.

459
00:27:50,247 --> 00:27:51,656
That's crazy, man.

460
00:27:51,656 --> 00:27:59,030
And if I didn't see it with my own two eyes, one year apart, 11 months apart, I mean, you
know, I just knew that that was going to be taken care of.

461
00:27:59,030 --> 00:28:00,821
couldn't believe it when I saw it there.

462
00:28:00,821 --> 00:28:02,902
Full of lint after one year.

463
00:28:03,297 --> 00:28:05,097
wonder who would be liable for that, Rhyan.

464
00:28:05,097 --> 00:28:08,856
if, that it did ignite, right?

465
00:28:08,856 --> 00:28:20,021
And, you know, either the insurance adjuster goes back out there or, ah you know,
firefighter finds the source that there was a screen covering the dryer vent.

466
00:28:20,021 --> 00:28:30,544
ah You know, if the homeowner looks at it goes, I was told to leave it there despite my
inspector, like who's to blame in a situation like that?

467
00:28:30,972 --> 00:28:33,503
man, I'd have to say the builder.

468
00:28:34,584 --> 00:28:38,467
It cannot be anybody's blame but the builder at that point.

469
00:28:38,467 --> 00:28:44,210
But the problem with that is I don't know if you ever seen a fire investigator do their
job.

470
00:28:44,210 --> 00:28:48,212
It's probably one of the most difficult jobs there can ever be.

471
00:28:48,533 --> 00:28:55,117
Like imagine a house burnt to a crisp and it's like you got wood and burnt things
everywhere.

472
00:28:55,117 --> 00:28:57,552
You have to figure out what started.

473
00:28:57,552 --> 00:29:01,946
where it started from and like look at damage pattern and stuff like that.

474
00:29:01,946 --> 00:29:03,967
What do you do when there's so much damage?

475
00:29:03,967 --> 00:29:05,209
It's so extensive.

476
00:29:05,209 --> 00:29:10,232
It's hard to come back and say whose fault it is because you really don't know.

477
00:29:10,393 --> 00:29:11,293
And sometimes.

478
00:29:11,293 --> 00:29:15,424
at both of those careers and just go, let's inspect the house while they're still
standing.

479
00:29:15,424 --> 00:29:16,596
Let's do that.

480
00:29:16,804 --> 00:29:17,759
Yes.

481
00:29:18,679 --> 00:29:29,134
Do you, I mean, you're probably you're not in fire investigation, but I mean, like has
being a home inspector led you to, you know, kind of theorize as to where some of these

482
00:29:29,134 --> 00:29:34,526
starting points are sometimes or are you just focused on let's get this fire out?

483
00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:40,235
I'm nine times out of ten just trying to go home, know, this let's get this fire out.

484
00:29:40,235 --> 00:29:41,246
Let's knock this out.

485
00:29:41,246 --> 00:29:44,760
Save any lives that we can and let's get let's get out of there.

486
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:52,508
Now it is it is intriguing to look at the property after a fire hasn't occurred just
because it's been when I say it's hot.

487
00:29:52,508 --> 00:29:53,810
It is crazy hot.

488
00:29:53,810 --> 00:29:54,416
So.

489
00:29:54,416 --> 00:29:55,207
And it gets crazy.

490
00:29:55,207 --> 00:29:57,018
It's hot like that for a long time.

491
00:29:57,018 --> 00:30:01,192
And it's amazing to see how some of these structures still stand up after a fire.

492
00:30:01,192 --> 00:30:05,476
You would imagine that you would think as a regular person, it would collapse pretty
quick.

493
00:30:05,476 --> 00:30:14,533
But it really doesn't like a home could withstand a lot, a lot of punishment, especially
like the the Joyce and Pertiline style homes.

494
00:30:14,533 --> 00:30:15,524
You know what mean?

495
00:30:15,524 --> 00:30:18,547
Start getting into those trusses and stuff like that.

496
00:30:18,547 --> 00:30:20,038
Of course, those gussets can fail.

497
00:30:20,038 --> 00:30:21,969
But yeah.

498
00:30:22,532 --> 00:30:25,933
What's the most dangerous fire situation you've been in?

499
00:30:26,062 --> 00:30:28,033
my gosh.

500
00:30:28,033 --> 00:30:29,444
This happened recently.

501
00:30:29,444 --> 00:30:31,524
It was a downtown fire in Beaumont.

502
00:30:31,524 --> 00:30:35,414
oh Get there probably like the second on scene.

503
00:30:35,414 --> 00:30:39,108
It's a high rise building, fully involved.

504
00:30:39,108 --> 00:30:40,238
It's going crazy.

505
00:30:40,238 --> 00:30:43,189
You got fire coming out of everywhere, smoke coming out of everywhere.

506
00:30:43,189 --> 00:30:52,463
ah Well, actually it's just, it's just smoke coming out of everywhere at this point, but
you know it's a fire about how the smoke's puffing out of the doors and the windows.

507
00:30:52,463 --> 00:30:54,053
So.

508
00:30:55,588 --> 00:30:57,819
I get fully dressed up and geared up.

509
00:30:57,819 --> 00:31:04,986
I'm talking about this thing like 12 stories high and they send me up to the fourth floor.

510
00:31:04,986 --> 00:31:07,463
oh You got climb up the ladder.

511
00:31:07,463 --> 00:31:09,780
We've got a big 36 foot extension ladder.

512
00:31:09,780 --> 00:31:10,832
Go up there.

513
00:31:10,832 --> 00:31:11,842
Get up on this ledge.

514
00:31:11,842 --> 00:31:15,035
The ledge is like this wide.

515
00:31:15,656 --> 00:31:17,377
The ledge is like this wide.

516
00:31:17,377 --> 00:31:21,561
The window is probably like four feet from where we got up on.

517
00:31:21,561 --> 00:31:23,282
So you have to like

518
00:31:23,342 --> 00:31:26,804
inch away against the wall up into this window.

519
00:31:26,965 --> 00:31:33,830
And my captain, he was like, all right now, bust the window open because they had a piece
of plywood in the window.

520
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:40,755
Like, so I had to, I took the big tool from him and I'm standing on that little ledge,
mind you, and I gotta beat this window in.

521
00:31:40,755 --> 00:31:47,840
I finally get that in and you step inside of this place and it's like, you can't see this
in front of you.

522
00:31:48,381 --> 00:31:50,202
So it's like, where?

523
00:31:50,290 --> 00:31:55,250
Like if you're not scared at that point, like you know this building's on fire, this huge
building.

524
00:31:55,250 --> 00:31:58,710
We know 9-11, God rest their souls.

525
00:31:59,190 --> 00:32:01,890
And that's all you can think about in that instance.

526
00:32:01,890 --> 00:32:07,690
So I'm like, I was panicking a little bit, but I stayed in the heat.

527
00:32:08,130 --> 00:32:11,390
But yeah, we didn't really do much that fire.

528
00:32:11,390 --> 00:32:12,970
It was kind of a lost cause.

529
00:32:12,970 --> 00:32:14,330
That's a big building.

530
00:32:14,650 --> 00:32:17,050
Anyway, exactly.

531
00:32:17,050 --> 00:32:17,995
Yeah, for sure.

532
00:32:17,995 --> 00:32:19,679
gotta ask what's going on with that.

533
00:32:19,679 --> 00:32:21,074
Is that a disposal?

534
00:32:21,074 --> 00:32:23,754
Yes, my knee keeps hitting the disposal.

535
00:32:26,974 --> 00:32:28,018
I'm dropping.

536
00:32:28,018 --> 00:32:29,278
times.

537
00:32:31,298 --> 00:32:32,818
I was like, I know that sound.

538
00:32:32,818 --> 00:32:34,338
mean, I'm home inspector.

539
00:32:34,358 --> 00:32:35,998
I know the sound.

540
00:32:36,318 --> 00:32:38,698
I don't know if he's testing me.

541
00:32:39,378 --> 00:32:40,418
Oh man.

542
00:32:40,418 --> 00:32:41,018
All right.

543
00:32:41,018 --> 00:32:44,198
I love it when natural stuff just happens.

544
00:32:44,924 --> 00:32:48,567
last week, mean, it was it was the dog knocking the camera over.

545
00:32:48,606 --> 00:32:50,664
Yeah, this week we got it.

546
00:32:50,909 --> 00:32:52,290
All kinds of stuff, man.

547
00:32:52,290 --> 00:32:54,612
And we don't cut hardly anything out of this show.

548
00:32:54,612 --> 00:32:58,414
So it's just life going on around us.

549
00:32:58,935 --> 00:32:59,659
Oh, man.

550
00:32:59,659 --> 00:33:02,491
production value takes away from it.

551
00:33:02,572 --> 00:33:08,176
So, you know, like, obviously I know you firefighter, home inspector.

552
00:33:08,176 --> 00:33:12,619
When I was training at champion school, real estate, there was a couple of firefighters in
my class.

553
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,723
great guys, Brad, you said you knew a firefighter and, uh, home inspector.

554
00:33:17,723 --> 00:33:22,666
Uh, it's obviously something that, I mean, clearly they compliment each other, but

555
00:33:23,492 --> 00:33:28,776
something that firefighters tend to gravitate to that because obviously you guys do shift
work, right?

556
00:33:28,776 --> 00:33:34,449
So I guess that leaves you some time to do inspections in between there with your free
time.

557
00:33:35,230 --> 00:33:42,989
Is this something that you would suggest to uh firefighters or I mean, it's hard to
suggest to a homeless person to become a firefighter.

558
00:33:42,989 --> 00:33:46,038
That's a completely different situation.

559
00:33:46,038 --> 00:33:52,362
But I mean, is it something like if a firefighter was looking for something to do, some
work to do uh in between shifts?

560
00:33:52,422 --> 00:33:59,582
Is it something you would suggest to them or is it like, know, Hey, I built this thing,
you know, several years ago, but man, it's actually kind of tough.

561
00:33:59,582 --> 00:34:03,527
was costly, you know, I love doing it, but I don't know if I'd suggest it to others.

562
00:34:03,527 --> 00:34:04,818
Like, how do feel about that?

563
00:34:05,232 --> 00:34:10,846
I feel like if you're getting into it for the wrong reasons, I wouldn't suggest it.

564
00:34:10,846 --> 00:34:15,369
uh And those reasons are just to be a quick money grab.

565
00:34:15,610 --> 00:34:26,698
If you have a genuine passion for it, you find yourself studying and you're studying one
topic and then you rabbit hole into another if you're that kind of person.

566
00:34:26,736 --> 00:34:34,248
then I think this would be a good field for you to get into, especially if you have a keen
eye and you're diligent with your work.

567
00:34:34,248 --> 00:34:48,052
um It's perfect for you to get into because not only are you helping save lives outside of
work, you're literally, you can say your work here can save a life, um but you're also

568
00:34:48,052 --> 00:34:54,814
learning more about what we do as firemen a little more in depth, you know, and that's
never a bad thing.

569
00:34:54,814 --> 00:34:56,152
It's never a bad thing.

570
00:34:56,152 --> 00:35:02,184
I love the fact that you're like, hey, you know, it's a fantastic thing if you want to, if
you're passionate about it.

571
00:35:02,785 --> 00:35:12,348
If you're not passionate about it, probably not the road for you because yeah, I mean, I
can't imagine it being with the rate that you get to do inspections and especially in the

572
00:35:12,348 --> 00:35:18,164
beginning with all the tools and the training that you had to pay for, like this wasn't
profitable for a while.

573
00:35:18,164 --> 00:35:24,159
Yeah, yeah, it kind of sucked in the beginning, but it wasn't as bad as some other things,
though.

574
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:29,595
Like I've gotten to videography on me and Brad were talking earlier, videography and
photography.

575
00:35:29,595 --> 00:35:34,089
You talk about some expensive camera gear and cameras and lenses.

576
00:35:34,089 --> 00:35:35,600
It gets crazy.

577
00:35:37,162 --> 00:35:38,503
Yes, yes.

578
00:35:38,503 --> 00:35:41,368
Oh, my God.

579
00:35:41,368 --> 00:35:45,768
1000 pictures, come shoot my wedding, and we'll give you a couple hundred bucks.

580
00:35:45,768 --> 00:35:46,448
How's that sound?

581
00:35:46,448 --> 00:35:48,128
You know, like, oh, okay.

582
00:35:48,128 --> 00:35:49,528
And all of them edited.

583
00:35:49,528 --> 00:35:50,168
Oh, wow.

584
00:35:50,168 --> 00:35:50,708
Okay.

585
00:35:50,708 --> 00:35:51,428
Yeah.

586
00:35:51,428 --> 00:35:51,868
Yeah.

587
00:35:51,868 --> 00:35:52,568
How about it?

588
00:35:52,568 --> 00:36:01,508
You know, oh, with my $3,500 camera, let's go, you know, like, walking around with five
grand worth of equipment at a time on you.

589
00:36:02,572 --> 00:36:04,290
Yup, yup, exactly.

590
00:36:04,290 --> 00:36:09,836
In addition to you guys both having that in common, uh Rhyan is also a musician.

591
00:36:09,836 --> 00:36:12,256
I haven't seen any of your stuff in a while.

592
00:36:12,256 --> 00:36:13,442
Have you posted anything in a while?

593
00:36:13,442 --> 00:36:17,441
I haven't man, I've just been really focusing on work man.

594
00:36:17,441 --> 00:36:19,957
I need I do I really do man.

595
00:36:19,957 --> 00:36:21,230
I can't let it go to waste.

596
00:36:21,230 --> 00:36:24,145
Now you guys you guys do music too as well.

597
00:36:24,408 --> 00:36:25,421
Yes.

598
00:36:25,487 --> 00:36:27,167
Well, I'm

599
00:36:27,167 --> 00:36:29,396
but I have a bass that I play now and then.

600
00:36:29,936 --> 00:36:30,940
I'm sure it's great.

601
00:36:30,940 --> 00:36:33,533
been a guitar player for 30 plus years.

602
00:36:33,533 --> 00:36:38,447
uh I haven't really been active at it in a while, but I'm getting back into it.

603
00:36:38,447 --> 00:36:48,316
My son picked it up back in the summer and uh it's like, there's like a raging fire inside
me now, you know, like, and there ain't no putting it out.

604
00:36:48,316 --> 00:36:50,448
Like I gotta, gotta, I gotta go.

605
00:36:50,448 --> 00:36:54,801
And so, you know, we've been, we've been playing guitar together.

606
00:36:54,801 --> 00:36:58,154
I've been teaching him stuff and we've been kind of, I've been kind of

607
00:36:58,222 --> 00:37:04,665
Considering like rejoining like the music scene, which is you know, I didn't know that was
ever gonna happen again

608
00:37:04,665 --> 00:37:06,884
He's got a nice pretty new acoustic, man.

609
00:37:06,884 --> 00:37:09,274
Acoustic, that's what I'm talking about.

610
00:37:09,274 --> 00:37:15,825
I uh got all kinds of guitars, There's one of them behind me right now, but I got a
problem.

611
00:37:16,567 --> 00:37:19,432
play, I'll be famous already, man, I'm telling you.

612
00:37:19,755 --> 00:37:23,281
If I know how to play an instrument, it's on.

613
00:37:23,572 --> 00:37:26,468
being in Nashville, I just enjoy watching everybody else, but.

614
00:37:26,468 --> 00:37:27,240
Yeah.

615
00:37:27,318 --> 00:37:28,728
But yeah, no, it's cool.

616
00:37:28,728 --> 00:37:39,164
Dude, want to jump back in speaking of side things and side gigs and, ah you know, one of
the mentioned at the top of the show, one of the things that was kind of sparking a little

617
00:37:39,164 --> 00:37:48,539
bit of commentary was a video that we posted where, you know, we were talking about how if
you really want to go gangbusters with inspections, you got to lean in full time on it.

618
00:37:48,539 --> 00:37:51,616
But again, not everybody has that flexibility or

619
00:37:51,616 --> 00:37:55,938
you know, ability at all just because of their main thing, right?

620
00:37:55,938 --> 00:38:01,620
You've got five years left probably if you're going to retire with a 20 year pension, you
know, from the fire department.

621
00:38:01,620 --> 00:38:03,751
So yeah, you know, you don't want to stop right now.

622
00:38:03,751 --> 00:38:04,198
You've got it.

623
00:38:04,198 --> 00:38:11,814
You've got five more years that you got to see out here and, uh, and then you can maybe
transition full time, but how do you juggle that workload?

624
00:38:11,814 --> 00:38:17,627
How do you, um, balance, uh, turning down jobs when they come in, but you're on the clock.

625
00:38:17,627 --> 00:38:18,867
Um,

626
00:38:19,142 --> 00:38:22,067
And kind of what's your idea for growing this going forward?

627
00:38:22,067 --> 00:38:24,090
of questions, but answer them as you go.

628
00:38:24,090 --> 00:38:25,291
absolutely.

629
00:38:26,211 --> 00:38:32,663
I think that the balance is kind of uh it's a delicate one, but it's not too bad.

630
00:38:32,663 --> 00:38:33,573
It's not too bad.

631
00:38:33,573 --> 00:38:36,695
um Of course, there's firefighting that that's kind of just concrete.

632
00:38:36,695 --> 00:38:38,115
It's just set in stone.

633
00:38:38,115 --> 00:38:39,676
You know what you're going to do.

634
00:38:39,676 --> 00:38:41,436
You know the days you're going to work.

635
00:38:41,436 --> 00:38:47,078
Of course, there's always an overtime variable, but it's not it's nothing nothing that you
can't turn down.

636
00:38:47,090 --> 00:38:52,330
As far as the home inspections go, it is so flexible to work around my schedule.

637
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:55,070
can kind of, I can put things where I want them to be.

638
00:38:55,070 --> 00:38:57,830
If I want to inspect that seven in the morning, I go inspect at seven.

639
00:38:57,830 --> 00:39:02,150
If I want to do 10 or later in the afternoon, I can go do that.

640
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:05,906
So I think they marry perfectly.

641
00:39:05,906 --> 00:39:12,009
um As far as the business aspect of it, um you get what you put in, right?

642
00:39:12,009 --> 00:39:17,112
So it really takes putting feet on the ground and getting that clientele for inspections.

643
00:39:17,112 --> 00:39:20,774
um And especially when you first start off, right?

644
00:39:20,774 --> 00:39:24,977
So it's kind of hard to do that if you're not like full time in it.

645
00:39:24,977 --> 00:39:25,537
You know what I mean?

646
00:39:25,537 --> 00:39:30,379
It's you kind of, I'm putting less work in than what you guys put in.

647
00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:34,862
So my fast times aren't as fast as y'all's, but.

648
00:39:36,004 --> 00:39:42,093
Also, my slow times are even slower, you know, so it's like you have that's the kind of
trade off with that.

649
00:39:42,093 --> 00:39:48,082
I'm not making probably making near what you guys are making but it's an add-on to what
I'm already making as a fireman.

650
00:39:48,082 --> 00:39:49,294
So it's not nothing.

651
00:39:49,294 --> 00:39:51,316
It's not my first job.

652
00:39:52,186 --> 00:39:56,769
I mean, I can see you like once you get past the hump of like I say all the expense to get
started.

653
00:39:56,769 --> 00:40:02,732
um Then then you know, it can like you said, it can be like ancillary income.

654
00:40:02,732 --> 00:40:11,697
um I think that there's a couple of things that when we talk about people doing this part
time that I kind of discourage for it's it's it's for a couple of reasons.

655
00:40:11,697 --> 00:40:20,954
But I think your situation and what you do as a full time job is lends itself very well to
it.

656
00:40:20,954 --> 00:40:26,014
The reason why is because number one, you being a firefighter is a really good selling
point.

657
00:40:26,174 --> 00:40:39,754
mean, if you're just if you're a car salesman and you're looking to get into home
inspection as a side gig, you know, I don't think that's great.

658
00:40:39,754 --> 00:40:40,554
Right.

659
00:40:40,554 --> 00:40:42,274
Like that's not a selling point whatsoever.

660
00:40:42,274 --> 00:40:43,274
People in the military.

661
00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:43,714
That's a really good.

662
00:40:43,714 --> 00:40:45,114
So that's a really good selling point.

663
00:40:45,114 --> 00:40:47,434
You know, like a veteran veteran owned company.

664
00:40:47,434 --> 00:40:48,834
This is firefighter owned company.

665
00:40:48,834 --> 00:40:50,158
I that's a good selling point.

666
00:40:50,158 --> 00:40:51,490
something like that, yeah.

667
00:40:51,490 --> 00:40:59,815
there's a little bit of built in marketing there, um, with, with folks, um, that are
starting a company and don't have that to lean on, you know, they have to lean on just

668
00:40:59,815 --> 00:41:05,578
more traditional styles of marketing, which can be costly and you're putting time and
effort and money into marketing.

669
00:41:05,578 --> 00:41:10,121
And then when you get the calls, uh, you may not be able to take them because you're not
available.

670
00:41:10,121 --> 00:41:11,512
And that, that, that's one thing.

671
00:41:11,512 --> 00:41:15,904
Also, I feel like that the experience you get better, the more homes that you see.

672
00:41:15,904 --> 00:41:19,322
And when you're working part time, you're going to see less homes.

673
00:41:19,322 --> 00:41:27,302
They're going to come in less frequently because you're doing it part time, but they're to
come in less frequently because you can't really adhere to the, you know, hustle and

674
00:41:27,302 --> 00:41:28,502
bustle of the real estate market.

675
00:41:28,502 --> 00:41:38,262
And so they're going to come in a little bit slower and your experience is going to come a
little bit slower where I think that, you know, it being a firefighter plays a, uh, an

676
00:41:38,262 --> 00:41:42,082
intricate role in that is you already kind of have a little bit.

677
00:41:42,082 --> 00:41:48,644
have some, underlying knowledge, whether you want to admit it or not, or kind of, um,
maybe you don't even know it.

678
00:41:48,644 --> 00:41:56,716
But I feel like you have some underlying knowledge about homes and about safety hazards
and a lot of the things that we already look for is some things that you already had

679
00:41:56,716 --> 00:41:57,597
there.

680
00:41:57,597 --> 00:41:59,245
So you're bringing some experience to the table.

681
00:41:59,245 --> 00:42:06,740
That's why I asked about your firefighter experience, whether or not that played a role in
your education to get get licensed.

682
00:42:06,740 --> 00:42:15,352
Because I feel like without a doubt, you're bringing some experience to the table that
isn't something that a lot of people have.

683
00:42:15,728 --> 00:42:20,211
I think absolutely, but I think it's like one of those things like you look in the mirror
every day.

684
00:42:20,211 --> 00:42:22,172
It's like I'm not still fat today.

685
00:42:22,172 --> 00:42:23,573
Like, oh, I'm getting skinny.

686
00:42:23,573 --> 00:42:25,024
Is this gym thing working?

687
00:42:25,024 --> 00:42:36,932
Because it's like, you know, I like you said, I guess it's some things I don't realize I'm
bringing to the table with me from the fire department into this because it's just it's

688
00:42:36,932 --> 00:42:39,273
just in me, you know, so.

689
00:42:40,758 --> 00:42:43,946
Yeah, I can see that man, but you definitely deserve more credit.

690
00:42:44,677 --> 00:42:45,537
You

691
00:42:45,537 --> 00:42:53,941
one of the things I was just talking with one of the executives of the company about this
just kind of things that we want to help new inspectors to understand.

692
00:42:53,941 --> 00:43:01,734
And one of one of the things is when you're when you're marketing a brand new business,
and you've just uh opened shop, you're like, how do I get that first 30 inspections,

693
00:43:01,734 --> 00:43:01,964
right?

694
00:43:01,964 --> 00:43:05,566
Like, I used to do 30 to 40 a month at my peak.

695
00:43:05,566 --> 00:43:10,588
But how do you even get 30 period, you know, for some of these guys, they don't know how.

696
00:43:10,588 --> 00:43:14,190
And it's like, you have to have a value prop that when people ask,

697
00:43:14,190 --> 00:43:15,300
Why do we need to use you?

698
00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:16,330
You're brand new.

699
00:43:16,330 --> 00:43:17,921
I've got my guy that I was using.

700
00:43:17,921 --> 00:43:19,071
Why you?

701
00:43:19,071 --> 00:43:21,181
Very few people know how to answer that.

702
00:43:21,181 --> 00:43:32,294
And when you can just say, well, I put out fires and see homes in their best and worst
situations at all, you know, for both my day job and my side job, they immediately just

703
00:43:32,294 --> 00:43:34,244
go, huh, okay.

704
00:43:34,244 --> 00:43:36,005
Yeah, this is, let's get this guy in.

705
00:43:36,005 --> 00:43:38,675
Also tell me if this place is going to burn down and fall on my head.

706
00:43:38,675 --> 00:43:41,256
You know, it's, uh, that's, it's great, man.

707
00:43:41,256 --> 00:43:43,249
It's so marketable for sure.

708
00:43:43,249 --> 00:43:44,354
Absolutely.

709
00:43:44,569 --> 00:43:52,463
educationally, how would you recommend that the average home inspector learn to think more
like a first responder?

710
00:43:52,463 --> 00:43:57,306
Like what are some things that they need to be looking out for when they enter the house
and as they're going through?

711
00:43:58,086 --> 00:44:03,214
Hmm, I say it's really already set for the home inspectors.

712
00:44:03,214 --> 00:44:09,041
Like everything that we look at is firemen because we're looking at it.

713
00:44:09,382 --> 00:44:11,504
when it's happening, like it's already happened.

714
00:44:11,504 --> 00:44:15,087
Whatever happened, it's happened and now we're focused on it.

715
00:44:15,308 --> 00:44:18,631
But as a home inspector, you go on in with nothing's happened yet.

716
00:44:18,631 --> 00:44:23,477
You know, it's almost like that new house going into a brand new house and inspecting it
for the first time.

717
00:44:23,477 --> 00:44:31,484
It's like it's really, you know, you really have to pay attention to problems that could
occur versus the problems that are already there.

718
00:44:31,782 --> 00:44:32,962
So.

719
00:44:33,402 --> 00:44:44,131
I guess like maybe maybe like looking at some video of different things happen like
different safety hazards are current like the fires and stuff like that electrical fires

720
00:44:44,131 --> 00:44:46,143
all kind of things like that are online.

721
00:44:46,143 --> 00:44:53,559
We live in a age where everything is accessible to here to you on this YouTube any Google
whatever you want to do.

722
00:44:53,559 --> 00:45:02,298
oh But it is it is is but you can see the damage that you wouldn't see if.

723
00:45:02,298 --> 00:45:11,758
you know, you weren't if you weren't there, you know, so not everybody's about to pop up
and go to a house fire and see what's going on in there like I can't but

724
00:45:11,758 --> 00:45:14,457
Hey, I'm going the other way.

725
00:45:14,457 --> 00:45:16,835
If there's a house fire, like that's the difference.

726
00:45:16,835 --> 00:45:17,898
Like you're going to it.

727
00:45:17,898 --> 00:45:19,314
I'm going the other way.

728
00:45:19,314 --> 00:45:20,145
Absolutely.

729
00:45:20,145 --> 00:45:26,174
chasers now you're going to have inspector showing up going I just want to see what
happens because Rhyan told me to like.

730
00:45:26,586 --> 00:45:27,819
Rhyan did not say that.

731
00:45:27,819 --> 00:45:33,982
m

732
00:45:33,982 --> 00:45:35,162
that is something, yeah.

733
00:45:35,162 --> 00:45:38,622
Yeah, a ride along on the, to a call.

734
00:45:38,622 --> 00:45:40,282
Like, I don't think so.

735
00:45:40,362 --> 00:45:41,163
I don't think so.

736
00:45:41,163 --> 00:45:42,274
just to sit back and watch this.

737
00:45:42,274 --> 00:45:45,368
Don't get anywhere involved, know, but just to observe.

738
00:45:45,368 --> 00:45:47,822
yeah, no.

739
00:45:47,822 --> 00:45:48,962
stressful situation.

740
00:45:48,962 --> 00:45:50,402
I don't know, man.

741
00:45:51,195 --> 00:45:52,228
It's not that bad.

742
00:45:52,228 --> 00:45:54,517
Once you get trained for it, it's not that bad.

743
00:45:54,517 --> 00:45:56,270
It's not as as you think.

744
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:59,122
Now you got to keep cool cool sets of pressure.

745
00:45:59,122 --> 00:46:05,194
Now do you have plans to grow the business once you do retire as a firefighter or go full
time with it then?

746
00:46:05,194 --> 00:46:08,518
I'm kind of going back and forth between two things.

747
00:46:08,518 --> 00:46:11,880
Of course, the photography and the inspection company.

748
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,593
oh I love inspections.

749
00:46:14,593 --> 00:46:18,280
I love going and doing that, but I also really, really love photography.

750
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,729
I can't lie to oh you.

751
00:46:21,729 --> 00:46:27,913
I know the inspections, brings the most oh income in as far as the two, but.

752
00:46:28,346 --> 00:46:29,607
So I really don't know.

753
00:46:29,607 --> 00:46:31,709
They're both kind of floating up there.

754
00:46:31,709 --> 00:46:37,593
I love them both, so I'm just gonna continue to do them both until I pick a path to
further either one of them, you know?

755
00:46:37,656 --> 00:46:40,279
I mean, feel like you could definitely do both.

756
00:46:40,797 --> 00:46:42,042
Do you think so?

757
00:46:42,042 --> 00:46:44,422
I think you could definitely do both of those things.

758
00:46:44,422 --> 00:46:45,462
I I feel like, I don't know.

759
00:46:45,462 --> 00:46:49,522
I feel like it's gotta be harder to be a home inspector and a firefighter than it is to be
a photographer and a firefighter.

760
00:46:49,522 --> 00:46:50,374
I don't know.

761
00:46:50,374 --> 00:46:51,335
got to give up something.

762
00:46:51,335 --> 00:46:53,216
I don't know what it's going to be.

763
00:46:53,216 --> 00:46:58,118
I want to give up my running and all that stuff to like all this other stuff take time
man.

764
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,047
Too many too many.

765
00:47:01,047 --> 00:47:03,781
I'm the jack of all trades master none.

766
00:47:04,652 --> 00:47:06,297
It's not a bad thing, dude.

767
00:47:06,481 --> 00:47:07,622
Yeah, I agree.

768
00:47:07,622 --> 00:47:09,083
pretty damn good at.

769
00:47:09,124 --> 00:47:14,670
Yeah, that's great.

770
00:47:17,475 --> 00:47:21,234
I'm Matt Brady and I'm good at a few things just all right some other ones.

771
00:47:21,234 --> 00:47:24,800
yeah, just a bunch of average dudes here on this show.

772
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:25,481
I love it, man.

773
00:47:25,481 --> 00:47:26,809
We speak for the everyman.

774
00:47:26,809 --> 00:47:30,893
if a guy said he can kind of, I can kind of fight, don't fight that guy, you know?

775
00:47:30,893 --> 00:47:34,906
Yeah, he's going down play.

776
00:47:36,524 --> 00:47:40,894
Yeah, there's certain areas where sand backing, guess, would actually be appropriate.

777
00:47:42,217 --> 00:47:43,139
I hear that.

778
00:47:43,139 --> 00:47:55,537
Well, man, what is one big takeaway that you would want uh inspectors and homeowners to
both understand, to both look out for and know uh kind of coming from both of your worlds

779
00:47:55,537 --> 00:47:58,150
uh as a home inspector and a firefighter?

780
00:48:02,354 --> 00:48:13,454
probably say, you know, just to take things seriously, it kind of touches on more what
we're talking about, but just take things serious, you know, like um if somebody tells you

781
00:48:13,454 --> 00:48:16,107
that it's hazardous in an area, you know what mean?

782
00:48:16,107 --> 00:48:19,620
Like you just take what they're talking about in a serious manner.

783
00:48:19,620 --> 00:48:23,694
Like you don't want to be, we're trying to inform you.

784
00:48:23,694 --> 00:48:26,536
We're trying to inform you as an inspector.

785
00:48:26,697 --> 00:48:27,957
Just, you know.

786
00:48:29,584 --> 00:48:30,856
I don't know what I'm saying right now.

787
00:48:30,856 --> 00:48:33,099
Hold on.

788
00:48:33,099 --> 00:48:34,861
I got lost in the question.

789
00:48:34,861 --> 00:48:37,763
I'm like, you were like, I was like, what?

790
00:48:37,763 --> 00:48:38,225
Hold up.

791
00:48:38,225 --> 00:48:39,346
Hold up, man.

792
00:48:39,346 --> 00:48:40,707
That was rough.

793
00:48:41,689 --> 00:48:45,173
Yeah, I'm like, what is, what did he ask again?

794
00:48:48,217 --> 00:48:48,971
Yeah.

795
00:48:48,971 --> 00:48:59,376
like, I mean, when we're talking about, you know, fire hazards, electrical safety, stuff
like that, you know, I mean, like, when you're saying it, you're saying it for a reason,

796
00:48:59,376 --> 00:49:05,718
you know, we're doing the fact that you've seen the other side of things.

797
00:49:05,759 --> 00:49:14,194
It's coming from like, hey, not only do I did I read a book or did an instructor tell me
that this is problem, but I've seen what happens when the problem occurs.

798
00:49:14,194 --> 00:49:15,138
Absolutely.

799
00:49:15,138 --> 00:49:16,791
And so I feel like that's what you're trying to say.

800
00:49:16,791 --> 00:49:18,364
I'm thinking what you're laying down, man.

801
00:49:18,364 --> 00:49:19,176
Mm-hmm.

802
00:49:19,176 --> 00:49:19,978
I appreciate it.

803
00:49:19,978 --> 00:49:20,999
Pick it up.

804
00:49:21,144 --> 00:49:31,218
Yeah, you guys, gotta, I gotta give a shout out real quick to Sashko, my friends at Sashko
and their movement to uh normalize going to trade school.

805
00:49:31,218 --> 00:49:31,878
Okay.

806
00:49:31,878 --> 00:49:32,949
I mean, it's great.

807
00:49:32,949 --> 00:49:33,469
I love it.

808
00:49:33,469 --> 00:49:33,859
Kids.

809
00:49:33,859 --> 00:49:34,880
You want to go to college?

810
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:35,630
You want to be a doctor?

811
00:49:35,630 --> 00:49:36,350
You're to be a lawyer?

812
00:49:36,350 --> 00:49:36,970
Fantastic.

813
00:49:36,970 --> 00:49:37,741
That's fantastic.

814
00:49:37,741 --> 00:49:41,088
I love it, but it's not for everybody, right?

815
00:49:41,088 --> 00:49:42,522
It wasn't for me.

816
00:49:42,763 --> 00:49:50,036
And obviously I'm not in a trade so much, but I mean, I did go to, I get trained to do a
home inspection.

817
00:49:50,036 --> 00:49:51,128
That's what I do.

818
00:49:51,128 --> 00:50:01,981
But we are lacking people in the trades and the old guys and gals that know all the stuff
and how to do it all right, they're retiring.

819
00:50:01,981 --> 00:50:07,481
And there's not nearly as many people to replace them with any level of knowledge or care.

820
00:50:07,481 --> 00:50:15,705
uh We need people that wanna work with their hands, that want to get into trade schools
and want to learn how to make some money that way.

821
00:50:15,705 --> 00:50:20,546
And let me tell you, you can go to college and study something and come out of college.

822
00:50:20,546 --> 00:50:30,192
And you may or you may not get a job in the field of everything that you studied, but you
can go to trade school and you can work.

823
00:50:30,253 --> 00:50:31,894
You can learn how to be a plumber.

824
00:50:31,894 --> 00:50:33,555
You can learn how to be HVAC.

825
00:50:33,555 --> 00:50:35,496
And this stuff is not going away.

826
00:50:35,496 --> 00:50:36,551
We need people that are good.

827
00:50:36,551 --> 00:50:38,258
And the better you are, the more you.

828
00:50:38,892 --> 00:50:40,852
No, it's 100%, man.

829
00:50:41,292 --> 00:50:47,772
Yeah, I've actually got a young lady that's doing her home inspection training right now.

830
00:50:47,772 --> 00:50:50,192
I split the InterNACHI fee with her.

831
00:50:50,192 --> 00:50:54,012
23-year-old young lady that's in between careers.

832
00:50:54,692 --> 00:50:58,292
we were on a mission trip down to Mexico.

833
00:50:58,704 --> 00:51:02,965
And she was down there with her dad and she was like, so what do you, what do you do?

834
00:51:02,965 --> 00:51:05,107
And I'm like, well, it's been an interesting 14 years.

835
00:51:05,107 --> 00:51:11,820
You know, I've kind of worn a lot of hats over my lifetime, but, uh, you know, in the home
inspection space now, she's like, what's that do?

836
00:51:11,820 --> 00:51:15,352
And I'm like, I can teach you if you want to learn because it was,

837
00:51:15,852 --> 00:51:25,807
I learned how to do this at a crossroads where someone went, you could actually do the
things that you're passionate about, manage your schedule in a way that has flexibility to

838
00:51:25,807 --> 00:51:31,236
do those things and pursue those interests and also make a living wage so that you could
put a roof over your own head.

839
00:51:31,236 --> 00:51:32,361
And I went, huh.

840
00:51:32,361 --> 00:51:35,522
And so I explained things to her and she's like, I'm all in, let's learn.

841
00:51:35,522 --> 00:51:37,603
And so I'm like, okay, cool, I'll split that fee with you.

842
00:51:37,603 --> 00:51:38,654
uh

843
00:51:38,654 --> 00:51:42,926
If you don't finish the internautry course within two months, you owe me the second half
back.

844
00:51:42,926 --> 00:51:44,967
She goes, Oh, okay.

845
00:51:44,967 --> 00:51:51,599
And, uh, you know, this is somebody that I would love to see kind of take my LLC and
manage it here in the state of Tennessee.

846
00:51:51,599 --> 00:52:01,083
So I can build it back up in Florida at some point, but it's a, it's such a good career
for people that are, know, either at a crossroads career wise or, you know, Rhyan, in your

847
00:52:01,083 --> 00:52:08,116
case wants something that's kind of a ancillary gig or again, Matt, like you're talking
about if,

848
00:52:08,212 --> 00:52:12,257
You just want to learn a trade so that you have something that's not going anywhere.

849
00:52:12,257 --> 00:52:14,450
ah Because it's not.

850
00:52:14,450 --> 00:52:22,349
mean, your AI is producing tools and providing tools that are helping to make our jobs
easier and better informed.

851
00:52:22,349 --> 00:52:24,611
But at the same time, it's not replacing us,

852
00:52:25,242 --> 00:52:29,685
Grandma ain't calling AI to come fix her drain leak.

853
00:52:29,766 --> 00:52:30,256
Okay.

854
00:52:30,256 --> 00:52:31,727
That ain't happening.

855
00:52:31,768 --> 00:52:35,030
You know, your AC goes out AI ain't fixing that.

856
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:35,891
Okay.

857
00:52:35,891 --> 00:52:38,613
These people, need tradesmen to come do that stuff.

858
00:52:38,613 --> 00:52:42,316
We are always going to need tradesmen to come do that stuff.

859
00:52:42,416 --> 00:52:45,219
It's one of those things that just doesn't go out of style.

860
00:52:45,219 --> 00:52:50,133
I just think for the longest time now we've focused an awful lot on, you know, go to
school.

861
00:52:50,133 --> 00:52:50,503
I get it.

862
00:52:50,503 --> 00:52:51,784
We want the best for our kids.

863
00:52:51,784 --> 00:52:52,945
And you know what?

864
00:52:52,985 --> 00:52:54,476
Being in the trades.

865
00:52:55,066 --> 00:52:55,696
It's not easy.

866
00:52:55,696 --> 00:53:01,049
I'm not sitting here telling you it's easy, but I don't know about you guys.

867
00:53:01,349 --> 00:53:03,810
There ain't nothing ever really been that easy for me.

868
00:53:03,810 --> 00:53:07,742
mean, like I've, I work really hard at home inspection.

869
00:53:07,742 --> 00:53:08,732
Okay.

870
00:53:09,293 --> 00:53:10,493
I really enjoy it.

871
00:53:10,493 --> 00:53:11,934
I get a lot out of that.

872
00:53:11,934 --> 00:53:17,076
Um, but I mean, yeah, you take down, you take the path of being a tradesman.

873
00:53:17,076 --> 00:53:21,138
It's not necessarily going to be an easy path, but it's very gratifying.

874
00:53:21,174 --> 00:53:22,486
Gotta choose your heart, man.

875
00:53:22,486 --> 00:53:23,587
That's it.

876
00:53:24,269 --> 00:53:26,834
Dude, Rhyan, thank you so much for being here today, man.

877
00:53:26,834 --> 00:53:28,917
This has been an awesome talk with you.

878
00:53:28,917 --> 00:53:32,483
I wish you all the best in your inspection and firefighting careers.

879
00:53:32,483 --> 00:53:34,987
And we'd love to get you back on the show sometime,

880
00:53:35,118 --> 00:53:40,348
Absolutely, just don't ask me that last question you asked me ever again and I'll be back.

881
00:53:40,348 --> 00:53:42,578
You know, we good, we good.

882
00:53:42,578 --> 00:53:43,459
good.

883
00:53:44,643 --> 00:53:45,685
That was it.

884
00:53:45,685 --> 00:53:46,906
That was it.

885
00:53:47,034 --> 00:53:47,597
There we go.

886
00:53:47,597 --> 00:53:52,434
Right on.

887
00:53:52,962 --> 00:53:53,333
love it.

888
00:53:53,333 --> 00:53:55,166
Well guys, thank you so much for watching.

889
00:53:55,166 --> 00:53:56,889
We'll see you here next time.

890
00:53:56,889 --> 00:53:57,591
Better than ever.

891
00:53:57,591 --> 00:54:00,742
Right here on, you got it.