Franchises... and why they work! Featuring Nate Boucher from Mike Holmes Inspections in CA

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Matt, you ever wondered like how people could possibly live as far north as Canada?

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Canada, was thinking, when you said that, was thinking Oklahoma.

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That's far enough for me.

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Too far.

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in Minnesota and I want nothing to do with going to visit.

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It is that cold, okay?

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But people choose to live north of there and we're talking to one today.

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Let's do it.

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through.

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You know, before we get started, man, I mean, like I got a bone to pick.

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I mean, I feel like I'm going to I'm going to start doing that right away.

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You you flew to Austin.

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And I met you there and we spent an entire day sweating our asses off filming.

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And I mean, where's the intro man?

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Where's the new intro?

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When are we going to see the new intro?

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You mean this one?

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before we even jump in, you know, we've always for our drink of the day, plugged
inspection fuel, and we are going to be announcing something live there that you all

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watching can get to kind of help out with.

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And that is that ACC and ISN are coming out with an AI voice assistant.

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And it's going to be in development and hopefully released at the end of Q4.

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uh

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I'm not making any promises on that.

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It's not up to me, but we need a name for it.

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And you guys get to help name it.

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We're going to be doing an ongoing little voting poll series over on Instagram.

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And we would love for you guys to help pick the final name of the forthcoming AI voice
assistant.

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That's going to be helping you guys and your customers with all of your, back office kind
of scheduling needs and things like that.

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It's going be pretty cool.

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So yeah, so that's kind of a, that's kind of keep an eye, go visit the Instagram channel.

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It's at the ride along show.

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And we'd love for you guys to participate.

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It's gonna be pretty cool.

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So, but Matt, introduce our guest today, man, because this is gonna be a really fun one to
talk about because we haven't gotten on this topic yet.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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Our guest today is Nate Boucher from, whoa, that right.

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Did you hear that?

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I didn't expect that.

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Our guest today is Nate Boucher from way up in Canada.

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What part of Canada are you from, Nate?

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can't remember.

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Okay.

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I don't know anything of the geography of Canada.

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it doesn't like what even time zone are you in?

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It's Eastern, so I'd be the same as like, York.

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So like, yeah.

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So Nate from all the way up in Canada does home inspections up there.

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Also uh a uh farming guy.

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Is it just chickens or all or do you have other wildlife?

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We got ducks too now.

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So chickens is definitely the major part of it.

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We have a garden as well, but and we have a bunch of land that we rent to a local farmer
who does the crops.

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We don't do the crops at this point, but our goal is just animals and we're going to
continue to expand that.

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Yeah.

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Nice.

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Nice.

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seasons only like three months up there anyways, right?

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Yeah, yeah.

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Oh, I saw

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you have a franchise of Mike Holmes Inspection Company, is that correct?

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Yeah.

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Mike Holmes inspections.

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We have a, we're franchised across Canada.

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ah And I was one of the early, one of the first few to be honest in Canada to start off
when they first started launching the franchises.

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That's fantastic, man.

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I want to know, and this is what I truly want to get into today, a lot of inspectors, when
they're just starting out, they're kind of flipping the coin between do I do the

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independent route, the sole proprietor, or do I buy into a franchise, which is a little
more costly up front, but it gives you lot of tools and assets to really kind of jumpstart

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your business if you choose to go that route.

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So I would love to know, besides how reduced does your home inspection report get with all
that snow?

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Like can you actually inspect outside or is it interior?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah

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Especially when the winter rolls around like roofing.

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Yeah, pretty much.

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Yeah.

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But I would love to know like what have been some of the advantages and what made you
choose my columns.

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Yeah, that's a great question.

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So I basically had finished a bunch of my training for it and I was thinking about ramping
up and at that point where I'm just going to make that decision of how did I want to

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start.

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um And I was transitioning out of uh a prior job as well.

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So I was trying to find the way to maintain some type of level of income as well as start
a new business.

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Cause whether it's a franchise or whether you're going at your own, it's still just
launching a business.

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Um, every franchise is going to have a bit of a different kind of, support system.

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And it's important to look at that and see what the differences are versus like, you know,
usually there's an initial franchise fee or royalties or whatever their structure is.

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So you got to do your research on that.

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For me, there's really no bigger name than Mike Holmes in this type of industry.

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Um, and so that was what attracted me to it with regards to, uh, marketing.

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when you first start out, you know, we've all kind of been there where you're trying to
market to realtors or clients or whoever you're, you're targeting.

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Um, and you're like, Hey, I'm Nate from, from Nate's inspections.

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And they're kind of like, cool.

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I don't care.

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And so that name kind of helped get, get my foot in the door a little bit.

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And, it also has kind of that, that third party side of it where

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there's a vetting process for our franchisees and training that comes with that.

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So that helps, it kind of gives you a little bit of borrowed credibility as well.

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So you're sort of starting at a certain point.

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And so for me,

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like if we're hiring somebody from my that even a franchise of my homes inspection
company, they've had a little bit extra training or a little bit.

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There's a little bit more of an expectation.

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Yeah, there's like a quality control.

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And not to say that, you know, there's lots of solo guys out there who do lots of their
own training, but you have to purpose to do that.

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So the quality, you don't know, it's, it's, you're getting uh what you get.

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Whereas for us, it's like, there are certain steps you have to check off in order to be a
Mike Holmes inspections franchisee.

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And that just kind of lends some extra credibility and extra like experience before you
even launched.

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Yeah, well the name definitely helps for sure.

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mean, Holmes has been one of the only inspectors to really, outside of social media, ah
break it on mainstream TV, cable networks and things like that.

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I think the only other guy that I've seen on there is like Inspector Projo, which only, I
don't want to discredit that show, but I think that was only on, yeah, it wasn't, yeah.

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But I mean, Mike Holmes wasn't really a home inspector.

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He came from the contracting side of things.

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But he did outside of the homes on homes show, which was one of the biggest ones.

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They did also have a show afterwards called homes inspections.

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And that was more specifically, they started every show with an inspection.

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And often they were going through and looking at like either a past inspection and did
somebody miss some things.

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or maybe they didn't get an inspection and kind of talking about the ups and downs, the
ins and outs of that inspection industry.

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Because in Ontario, I'm in a province that is not a licensed province.

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So anyone can slap a sticker on the side of their truck and call themself a home
inspector.

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yeah, I think we've only got two provinces in Canada that are licensed.

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And so we still have a bit of that quality control that's not.

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quite there from a licensing standpoint.

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There's mixed feelings on that, but yeah, that's something that we're trying

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look like up there?

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ah I can't speak to it too much because it's mainly in the western provinces of Alberta
and BC and so that's kind the other side of the country for me.

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ah But there's, uh I think there's some requirements with regards to training.

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There's an exam and I think there are some maybe mandatory mentored inspections or ride
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I can't, I'm not 100 % sure but I think that's what it is.

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I don't know that the bar is that high but if you're going through

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Like we have all our organizations too, know, much like in the States, is InterNACHI is
one of the big ones.

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In Canada, we've got CAPI for all of Canada.

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Some provinces have their own as well.

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And those organizations have like standards as well.

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So if you're joining one of those organizations, you're going to have some, checks and
balances there as well, which is a great idea.

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But of course, being non-licensed, you don't have to join.

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Interesting.

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So I mean, like, you know, like here, or at least, I mean, in the areas that do require
licensing, I should say, cause there's definitely some areas across the U S that don't,

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which we have to take the national home inspector's exam, but that would be for this
nation.

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Um, you guys, what's the deal with code up there?

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There's no building code or you don't, it's not the same.

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There's, there's, there's a difference in code for sure.

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Right.

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Yeah, I mean, we definitely have a building code.

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um The Ontario building code, I've been the province of Ontario and the Ontario building
code is pretty robust.

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And we also have like a Canadian electrical code, it's very similar to the NEC, but it's
Canadian.

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There's some discrepancies, of course, a lot of the stuff that you'll see that will be
different would be region specific too.

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are like in my area, know, a lot of things are going to be geared around being in a colder
environment.

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how much insulation you guys have in your attic versus us, it's gonna be very different.

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I can imagine.

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ah Down in Florida, know, we've got this polar, literal polar opposites right from from up
in Canada.

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In fact, we get all your people in the wintertime.

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When the license plates change here, it's because the leaves are changing there.

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so down here, especially with hurricanes and stuff to come through.

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ah

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Roofs down here need to be framed and braced in a certain way and reinforced with
hurricane straps and, you know, or clips and things like this ah in order to, you know,

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protect against sustained winds.

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Is it similar up there in terms of, uh I guess, kind of needing to be overbuilt in order
to handle like excessive snow loads or things like that?

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Or, you know, what would be a difference there?

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Some of the main things I would say would be how we treat some of the spaces.

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So um when you guys are designing like your HVAC systems, a lot of that is going to be
designed around cooling, whereas a lot of ours will be designed around heating.

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So I and I learned a lot of the stuff by watching videos like Matt's and people who are in
other areas that are very different than mine.

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You know, when they're going around scanning things and they're like, look at this, you
know, ceiling register.

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I don't have a lot of ceiling registers um in my area.

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ah Most of them are in the floor and because we're heating instead of cooling for the most
part, or at least that's our major concern.

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with you probably have a lot of basements, right?

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I was going say we have basements too.

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was the next point I was going to say.

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Yeah, almost every house.

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areas where basements are just non-existent.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I, and so you guys have a lot of your mechanical systems in the attic space.

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Yeah.

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Our attic space is largely unused space.

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It's usually just all trusses and then we have about 20 inches of insulation.

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So I was about to ask that, I mean, trusses, is it mainly trusses or is there like stick
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uh For new construction, it's mostly trusses for us.

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So like, you know, cause Brad, you asked the question about snow load and I think like
it's hard to compare it like, because it's not like Nate, you haven't been down here in

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Texas or Florida doing inspections, you know, it's like, it's like, how do you differ?

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And it's like, well, I mean, how do you differ?

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You know, like we can go back and forth on that.

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let me just tell you, like we are, there's trusses going on.

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I would say, in new construction, it's probably, 70, 30, 30 % trusses.

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Okay.

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in terms of like attic framing.

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um Most of our stuff is stick frame in my area uh and almost all of our rafters are two by
six, 24 on center.

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Do you, yours differ from that in terms of like size, spacing, or is it like the type of
lumber?

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Like, I mean, I know there's codes for all this, but I'm just curious.

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Yeah, I mean, it's, it's all new construction is 99 % trusses is from what I see.

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I don't see that's just it.

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Exactly.

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I don't see the stick framing.

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You might see that in custom homes more, especially obviously if you've got like the
vaulted ceilings or stuff like that.

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But like, but yeah, in like the, the main builders, you know, the, production builders,
it's all trust.

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Do you walk up into a custom home sometimes with stick frame attic and be like, what is
going on here?

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Yeah, I mean, I see it.

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see it.

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And it was it was more popular for us um like 70s and back.

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So so when I see older homes, I see it still.

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But yeah, I think now almost.

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addicts, since they're not really much in terms of usable space, they're probably not much
in terms of volume either.

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Like you don't have, like we have a lot of our addicts here are big, you know, big open
spaces, uh open spaces of ventilate, you know.

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It varies.

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um It definitely varies.

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You'll see some that aren't quite as pitched and other ones that definitely have more
space.

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I live in a fairly big house myself.

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We have a big family here um and we have a pretty high attic space.

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So you see some of the larger houses.

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It's just the way it's going to go, of course, right?

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But yeah, if it's like a bungalow, it might not be as big of a space.

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because basically you're not really using it for anything except for...

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Soffit and attic venting.

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Right.

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Now, I almost wonder.

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one of the, we opened the show, we were talking about this down in Austin.

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ah The house that we were looking at down there, the guy who designed it came up with this
concept called monopoly framing, ah which is almost a modern take.

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And correct me if I'm wrong on this, Matt, but it's almost a modern take on the old rafter
and knee wall setup.

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the way that he...

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ah frames it and insulates it.

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One, it's designed to be able to you ah know, handle the load.

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It's sturdy, but it also allows for uh insulating in a way that basically encapsulates the
entire attic space.

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So that way you can kind of better control uh that airflow throughout the hall.

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ah And it just makes it more efficient.

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Now that's in Austin, Texas though.

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ah Is there any sort of conversation about uh encapsulating attic spaces up in Canada?

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Or is that a practice up there or is it just not worth the effort or money?

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um I haven't heard too too much about that, what we do see is like energy efficiency is a
big play for us, um because of heat loss.

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It'd be pretty expensive if you're paying a lot of money to heat your house, right?

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So yeah, we'll definitely see things that are like, for me, over the last 10 years, the
amount of attic insulation that you require in a new build has gone up a number of times.

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So like for us, it's R60.

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that's the attic value.

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You go back like even to the early part of the 2000s and I believe it was like our 36.

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So it's basically doubled in the last 20 years.

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that's energy efficiency, I would say.

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ah Some of the higher end builders will use more techniques um to minimize thermal
bridging.

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That's a bigger one.

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um

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Yeah, a lot of the stuff that we're doing that I would say is a little more cutting edge
with that would be around energy efficiency and minimizing heat loss.

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So, you, well, two things.

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Well, first of all, I feel like we got to touch on this monopoly framing for one second.

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feel like it probably is at least somewhat, of a thing there.

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It's, not really a huge here either.

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Right.

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Um, but, but it really isn't Matt rising or is who you speak of, he actually didn't create
it though.

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It was actually created by Dr.

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Joe Steebrick who is up in the Northeast.

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and so, you know, we've got a lot.

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closer temperatures up way up Northeast to where you're at.

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um mean, obviously probably still a little bit different, but they definitely deal with
the cold and stuff out there.

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And it's really, I mean, whether it depends on whatever your climate is, um it's just a
better way of framing a wall to be able to insulate it better.

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and you know, soffits are weird, right?

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And difficult to deal with no matter what type of insulation you're working with.

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But yet, um

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you know, we still want overhangs.

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And so they build a wall that's basically just like this and everything's completely
sealed and then build overhangs on after the fact.

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so, but that's completely sealed.

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You can just insulate the entire thing, air seal it.

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And so I can see it no matter what climate you're in being beneficial seconds, but it's
not a hugely popular thing.

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Mostly, you know, custom build stuff really is what we're seeing.

259
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We're seeing that kind of stuff.

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We don't come across it very often.

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I wouldn't be surprised if it made it up your direction at some point.

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I mean, it's a really solid way of making sure that you've got a nice tight envelope.

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Now, honestly, Nate, it's been really cool.

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uh I kind of joined a franchise.

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It wasn't a franchise per se, it was BPG inspections.

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uh And the whole reason that I even have this job now is because BPG would pay for
continuing education.

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They would send us to conferences.

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I went to uh ASHE back in the day.

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That's where I met some of the people at porch originally.

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And that kind of opened the door for doing this.

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But...

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You know, that was one of the biggest perks in my book in why I went from an independent
company to a larger nationwide firm.

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ah Just the added resources.

274
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So what does Holmes provide for you in terms of uh continuing education and, you know,
ongoing learning experiences?

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Yes, that's a good question.

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I think some of the initial training is really important because we kind of go through the
procedure or our methodology of how we inspect.

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um We provide um like a report writing template.

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So you have to use the template.

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So there's restrictions within a franchise.

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What the benefits are, you don't have to build a template.

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Sure.

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If you built a template, you know that that's an undertaking.

283
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So, and of course they give us like a base for it and we can customize it and improve it
from there.

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So that's, that's a great start.

285
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And then, um, I'm doing it right now.

286
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Actually, we've got a new franchisee from one different area and he's up with me training.

287
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So for a week, when you first start, you are in with an experienced inspector riding along
training.

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Um, and so you get to see the houses.

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see how we inspect.

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And this is whether you've been an inspector for years or if you're brand new and you've
just bought the franchise.

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So it's a great kind of training.

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You kind of get through a whole bunch more than you would.

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So if you're just starting out, you know, I guess you can always do your own homes and do
your friend's house, which is what we all kind of do to get our feet wet when we very

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first start.

295
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But you're there with somebody who can mentor you, teach you how to not just inspect the
house, but also write the report, interact with.

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clients, you get to see that in person and how that works.

297
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And then we also have like a, we've got a good chat group and we've got inspectors all
across Canada.

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So, you know, yes, you can go on various forums and whatnot online, but I can punch in a
question or put a post a photo in that chat group and I'll get a number of opinions from

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some of the guys all across Canada pretty quickly.

300
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And there's lots of experience there because a lot of guys come from different.

301
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uh backgrounds, especially in different trades.

302
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You we might have a couple guys who are electricians, couple, you know, contractors, a
couple guys who are plumbers.

303
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I don't if we have any HVAC guys, but definitely a few guys who've been around in various
facets.

304
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And so you get some good perspectives from different people who have had more of a
specialist back.

305
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So the ride along thing, that's huge.

306
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The franchise requires a certain amount.

307
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Yeah, it's part of the training.

308
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So when you come on, you're basically you ride with somebody for a week.

309
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Yeah, so I've got somebody with me right now uh and he started on Monday.

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So today was day three.

311
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And so generally it can take different shapes depending on the season.

312
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But generally we try to do an inspection in the morning and then write a report in the
afternoon together.

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So you kind of are on the same page when we're really busy.

314
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Sometimes we're just plowing through and you're just seeing.

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two inspections or so a day, depending on how busy we are.

316
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And yeah, and by the end of it, they come out of it with a bunch of inspections under
their belt and that mentoring process so that they understand what to look for, how we

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structure our inspections from like a, you know, where we start, where we go to next,
where we finish, and then how we write the report.

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So that's all kind of there.

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And then one thing we also do is once you're out and live,

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we do have a report writing um additional kind of mentorship thing, or it's kind of like a
due diligence thing where your first X number of reports get sent to somebody who does all

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the report reviews.

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They'll look them over before you send them to clients.

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And that way we're uh ensuring a level of quality and then you will be released to do your
own once you've kind of passed that.

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So you kind of have that extra level of mentoring.

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And then of course you can always

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request a report review if you want in the future and just to see, I've been doing this
for six months now.

327
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I haven't had to review anything, but here's one.

328
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How am I doing still?

329
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Yeah.

330
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Yeah, exactly.

331
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Yeah.

332
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Sometimes you're running into something you're like, I've never seen this before, but
there's, you know, pile of guys across the country who have maybe seen it in some shape or

333
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form and can chime in.

334
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Man, you know, Texas, you know, it's the, the, licensing requirements are pretty
stringent.

335
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mean, like we have to, you don't have to have a construction background.

336
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Um, but you know, there, was, they've lowered it, but it was like close to like 200 hours.

337
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It was actually over 200 hours when I first got my license of, you know, certifications
that you had to go through before you could even get to the, uh, uh, licensing actual part

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of it.

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You had to get all that stuff.

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Then you had to take the, uh, the exams, national home inspector and the Texas exam.

341
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And then you could apply to the state after you checked a few more boxes.

342
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But the ride along part, like of those like 200 hours, 40 hours, they call it 40 hours.

343
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So guess essentially the same thing as a week, right?

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But the ride along part at the time, like no one ever told me that I could just try.

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I don't know how easily this is achieved, but you can just get, you ride along with a
trick approved inspector and literally ride along with them.

346
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No one told me that.

347
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And so they had ride alongs available at the school that I was champion school real estate
that signed up for.

348
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But it was a complete joke.

349
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Like basically the, we went and we saw two or three houses during this week.

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Almost all of it was spent in the classroom.

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And, uh and there wasn't like, you didn't get the extra like, what somebody do an
inspection.

352
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You didn't actually get to see like a completed inspection report.

353
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It was a little bit more hands on than the training that we had gotten previous to that.

354
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But it was like, man, the ride along part was such a joke.

355
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And, know, I I'm training somebody right now too.

356
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Like I'm, got somebody rolling with me.

357
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He's been with me.

358
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My training process to bring somebody on it's a hundred inspections.

359
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He's about halfway through right now.

360
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And, um, the other day, like it was sometime last week, we were talking about it.

361
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Uh, um, and he was just like, you know, he liked me.

362
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Thought he was just going to open up his own inspection company and start inspecting homes
after getting trained.

363
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Now I did that.

364
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I'm not saying that I didn't have like any knowledge of homes or anything, but like I did
that and looking back, it's like completely insane.

365
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Right?

366
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I mean, I had a couple of people that I could call like a couple of, had a couple of chat
groups or whatever, but I didn't have near the support that you're, you're talking about,

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or like any like hands-on, like let me ride with you type experience, like nothing.

368
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And I, you know, just plowed through it and got it done.

369
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um And so now this dude's rolling with me and he's like, I was insane to think I could
have done this.

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Like, and he's just more green than I was when I started, you know?

371
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But he's gonna be great.

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But he's like, I could not have done this without the support.

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And so, I mean, Ride Alongs really are huge.

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I think what we've got going on in Texas right now is a joke.

375
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They need to step it up a little bit because I think we threw a whole lot of people, they
need to determine, I can or can't do this.

376
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This is completely overwhelming.

377
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You know, some stuff like that.

378
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needs to be, some, need to do something about that.

379
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Sure.

380
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There's something to be said for earning your stripes carrying the ladder.

381
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Yeah.

382
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Yeah.

383
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Absolutely.

384
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Yeah.

385
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I've got a guy who works with me now as well.

386
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And like, so I did the same thing.

387
00:25:48,941 --> 00:25:55,084
He, you he rode with me for, for a number of months actually, before he was out on his own
and he was really comfortable.

388
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And by the time he was on his own, like, I know I wasn't going to have any problems with
him.

389
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He was able to basically do those inspections with me, just sort of sitting back and
watching.

390
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And now he's, he's excellent.

391
00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:07,365
That's fantastic.

392
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It's a good feeling when you got somebody out there in the field working and like the work
doesn't have to shut down just because you're not out there doing the work.

393
00:26:14,350 --> 00:26:15,347
uh That's fantastic.

394
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That's a really good thing, Yeah.

395
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Yeah.

396
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So did, has the franchise model helped you at scaling the business in terms of like
speeding up the timetable that you'd be willing to bring people on ah because they have

397
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those same resources that you benefited from or?

398
00:26:33,307 --> 00:26:43,667
Um, yes, I would say to a degree, the, so I was the, the, the, the homes inspections
franchises is actually relatively new.

399
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Um, they were doing the, they were doing like Mike homes inspections in the Toronto area
for like 15, maybe 20 years or so before they launched franchises.

400
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So their processes were set, but franchising started in 2021.

401
00:26:59,307 --> 00:27:03,097
So that portion, that portion of the business,

402
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was a little bit newer.

403
00:27:04,548 --> 00:27:07,670
So I'm one of the first guys to bring somebody on.

404
00:27:08,412 --> 00:27:13,276
So I was kind of guinea pigging that for a lot of people too, and kind of developing that
technique.

405
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I came from a background prior my previous job, I was managing a service territory.

406
00:27:18,741 --> 00:27:27,968
So that was kind of my background really was hiring, coaching, training and developing new
people.

407
00:27:28,249 --> 00:27:30,843
Different industry, but same.

408
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principles with regards to the training aspects.

409
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So that's kind of been a benefit for me.

410
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But yes, I mean, we get to utilize the same resources, right?

411
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And then for me, one of the other things about the franchise was um being like a
verifiable third party.

412
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um At some point, if I want to exit the business, not that I have any plans anytime soon,
but whatever I've built might be a little easier to sell.

413
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uh versus trying to Inspector Nate franchise or Inspector Nate's inspections without Nate.

414
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It's a tough sell.

415
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So yeah, so that was one thing.

416
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Yeah.

417
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m

418
00:28:12,682 --> 00:28:13,397
No, that's awesome.

419
00:28:13,397 --> 00:28:17,511
uh, you you talk about bringing somebody on like freeing up some time to take off and
stuff.

420
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that immediately leads me to like a pivot here because I'm going to be taking some time
off, uh, early next month to head to new Orleans for the inspection fuel conference taking

421
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place to eight through the 10th.

422
00:28:33,075 --> 00:28:34,316
Really looking forward to that.

423
00:28:34,316 --> 00:28:40,361
And, and to that, I feel like we should talk about the drink of the day because I have
something I want to bring up.

424
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do it.

425
00:28:41,041 --> 00:28:42,161
I have something that's kind of cool.

426
00:28:42,161 --> 00:28:51,061
You know, I, every once in a while and not often, but every once in a while, it's actually
been a while now, but I'll have a client that gifts me a bottle.

427
00:28:51,801 --> 00:28:55,341
Um, and, and so this is one that was a gift.

428
00:28:55,341 --> 00:29:00,281
Like I say, if you're listening, it's been a while, so I could use another one.

429
00:29:00,281 --> 00:29:08,761
Uh, if anybody wants to give me a bottle, um, uh, this is like I say, these are clients
that do their home inspections and they just think I should have a bottle sometimes.

430
00:29:08,761 --> 00:29:09,937
So this,

431
00:29:09,937 --> 00:29:14,897
is by Penelope and it is a straight bourbon whiskey toasted.

432
00:29:15,097 --> 00:29:23,397
It's like a, I don't know if you've ever had toasted bourbon, but and so anyway, yeah, it
is hundred proof.

433
00:29:23,397 --> 00:29:29,157
So it's pretty stout, but not too stout, but it's definitely got something different going
on with that toasty flavor.

434
00:29:29,157 --> 00:29:30,621
But anyway, cheers to you.

435
00:29:30,621 --> 00:29:37,949
to, is that very similar to Basil Hayden's toasted because I think they use like a rice
base instead of a uh rye or

436
00:29:38,306 --> 00:29:49,478
I haven't had theirs, um but I have had a Belfort which has, it's got like toasted, what
is it?

437
00:29:49,478 --> 00:29:55,925
I think it's made with toasted pecan wood or something like that.

438
00:29:55,925 --> 00:29:59,168
And it kind of has a little bit of that thing going on.

439
00:29:59,517 --> 00:30:04,121
Excellent, Yet, Nate, don't know, did Matt prep you for the, for the drink of the day
segment?

440
00:30:04,121 --> 00:30:06,303
Oh, epic fail.

441
00:30:06,303 --> 00:30:07,404
That's okay.

442
00:30:07,404 --> 00:30:08,264
I didn't either, man.

443
00:30:08,264 --> 00:30:09,065
I'm sorry about that.

444
00:30:09,065 --> 00:30:09,255
Yeah.

445
00:30:09,255 --> 00:30:14,400
So this is a segment where usually, you know, we're recording this in the evening and I've
already worked a full day.

446
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:24,729
So we're like, why don't we crack open a cold one or, you know, pour a little, a little
double on the rocks, you know, and, so anyway, what's your go-to to be sipping on when

447
00:30:24,729 --> 00:30:25,544
you're relaxed at the end?

448
00:30:25,544 --> 00:30:26,848
I'll be honest.

449
00:30:26,848 --> 00:30:29,514
so now I'm not much of a drinker anymore.

450
00:30:29,514 --> 00:30:31,639
uh But in my young

451
00:30:31,639 --> 00:30:34,451
like he was just a wild one back in the day, too.

452
00:30:38,134 --> 00:30:39,955
Yeah, all right.

453
00:30:40,129 --> 00:30:41,797
I didn't know that,

454
00:30:42,543 --> 00:30:46,783
But yeah, I always enjoyed a Canadian rye.

455
00:30:47,028 --> 00:30:47,521
There you go.

456
00:30:47,521 --> 00:30:51,114
Yeah, y'all do got some good spirits up there.

457
00:30:51,114 --> 00:30:51,791
they do.

458
00:30:51,791 --> 00:30:56,351
one of my favorites was like Crown Royal had one called the Northern Harvest.

459
00:30:56,351 --> 00:31:01,811
It was like a, I think it won like a rye of the year and it was like a $35 bottle somehow.

460
00:31:01,811 --> 00:31:03,931
And everybody was like, wow, this is unbelievable.

461
00:31:03,931 --> 00:31:07,171
And it was like a nice cheap one that was still really nice.

462
00:31:07,540 --> 00:31:12,255
What was the one that was featured so often in Mad Men?

463
00:31:13,841 --> 00:31:14,861
Pendleton?

464
00:31:15,232 --> 00:31:16,761
Now he was a Canadian.

465
00:31:17,947 --> 00:31:19,532
Fentelton's Canadian?

466
00:31:20,382 --> 00:31:21,233
Sure.

467
00:31:21,233 --> 00:31:23,553
I don't think I, I never really watched Mad Men.

468
00:31:23,553 --> 00:31:32,273
I just came up with the first Canadian whiskey I could think of that wasn't Crown Royal or
Canadian Mist.

469
00:31:33,033 --> 00:31:34,153
Wasn't that one?

470
00:31:34,153 --> 00:31:34,753
I've never had that.

471
00:31:34,753 --> 00:31:35,993
That's garbage.

472
00:31:35,993 --> 00:31:36,713
Completely.

473
00:31:37,292 --> 00:31:38,593
This is terrible.

474
00:31:39,553 --> 00:31:40,733
This is terrible.

475
00:31:41,053 --> 00:31:44,360
I mean, Crown's some good stuff and Pendleton's great too.

476
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,792
I know I do have a little crown in the cabinet.

477
00:31:46,792 --> 00:31:48,043
I should have grabbed that.

478
00:31:48,043 --> 00:31:54,679
I'm just sipping on iced tea tonight because I, for the past week, have been dealing with
some kind of crud.

479
00:31:54,679 --> 00:31:56,731
I have no idea what it is.

480
00:31:56,731 --> 00:31:58,660
ah

481
00:31:58,660 --> 00:32:10,191
man, I hope you get well, but there's an awful lot of times that I'm the only degenerate
out here drinking bourbon or whatever left out here to carry the load myself.

482
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:16,505
You wait until inspection fuel man, we will be in the heart of my favorite cocktail, which
is a Sazerac.

483
00:32:16,505 --> 00:32:19,284
We'll all join you in solidarity in a different way, Matt.

484
00:32:19,449 --> 00:32:20,420
Oh, look at that.

485
00:32:20,420 --> 00:32:24,234
That is a good looking hat, Really.

486
00:32:25,556 --> 00:32:28,779
That is 100 % the only one that exists in Canada.

487
00:32:28,779 --> 00:32:30,580
That is an original right there too.

488
00:32:30,580 --> 00:32:31,655
You know, I will.

489
00:32:31,655 --> 00:32:32,195
me one.

490
00:32:32,195 --> 00:32:34,695
asked him to send me one and then it was such a pain in the ass.

491
00:32:34,695 --> 00:32:38,115
He's like, I'm never shipping this to Canada ever again.

492
00:32:38,115 --> 00:32:39,635
So don't lose it.

493
00:32:40,612 --> 00:32:43,131
It costs more to ship it than it costs to make it.

494
00:32:43,131 --> 00:32:45,391
Yeah, I don't know how that happened.

495
00:32:45,391 --> 00:32:46,305
That's crazy.

496
00:32:46,752 --> 00:32:53,532
All right, so wait, we've got some special ride along hats that are coming out, Matt.

497
00:32:53,632 --> 00:32:57,372
They have been acquired for us for inspection fuel.

498
00:32:58,492 --> 00:33:02,852
So Nate, if you can make it, anybody that's been on the show gets a free ticket.

499
00:33:02,852 --> 00:33:07,512
We can't cover the room and flight and all that, but we get you free admin.

500
00:33:07,552 --> 00:33:09,972
Yeah, and we'll give you a show hat.

501
00:33:10,591 --> 00:33:13,608
It's okay, I'll just bunk with you guys.

502
00:33:13,608 --> 00:33:14,019
go, man.

503
00:33:14,019 --> 00:33:14,970
That's it.

504
00:33:14,970 --> 00:33:17,472
One big happy down here in the big easy.

505
00:33:18,493 --> 00:33:19,354
Love it, man.

506
00:33:19,354 --> 00:33:20,294
Love it.

507
00:33:21,176 --> 00:33:21,616
It is.

508
00:33:21,616 --> 00:33:22,657
It's going to be awesome.

509
00:33:22,657 --> 00:33:25,921
Does Canada do conferences like inspection wise?

510
00:33:25,921 --> 00:33:28,503
Like I know Interdacchi's probably got some chapters up there.

511
00:33:28,503 --> 00:33:29,784
ah

512
00:33:30,124 --> 00:33:36,530
so I'm a member of, with InterNACHI, I'm also with CAPI, the Canadian Association of Home
and Property Inspectors.

513
00:33:36,530 --> 00:33:38,992
ah They do a conference annually.

514
00:33:38,992 --> 00:33:44,617
uh And also um with Mike Holmes Inspections, we do kind of our own thing.

515
00:33:44,617 --> 00:33:47,499
So it's still kind of a conference for sure.

516
00:33:47,499 --> 00:33:54,145
And we do similar things with, you know, uh extended education and we have vendors come in
and whatnot.

517
00:33:54,145 --> 00:33:55,786
We have people across Canada.

518
00:33:55,786 --> 00:33:57,077
So yeah.

519
00:33:57,236 --> 00:33:57,916
Very cool.

520
00:33:57,916 --> 00:34:03,399
Well, I know we've got a couple from homes that might be coming to inspection fuel.

521
00:34:03,399 --> 00:34:10,561
ah I don't remember who they are, but our coordinator that works with y'all, because y'all
use HIP, right?

522
00:34:10,582 --> 00:34:12,002
Home Inspector Pro.

523
00:34:12,382 --> 00:34:13,332
Yeah.

524
00:34:13,332 --> 00:34:15,674
We don't talk about them much on this show, unfortunately.

525
00:34:15,674 --> 00:34:18,445
They're part of our brand of businesses.

526
00:34:18,445 --> 00:34:22,557
But ah yeah, we usually end up talking about ISN.

527
00:34:22,557 --> 00:34:26,240
But ah no, you guys are one of Home Inspector Pro's.

528
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:28,440
Biggest clientele out there.

529
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,652
I know, so I know we've got a couple.

530
00:34:29,652 --> 00:34:39,567
a couple of years back and yeah, yeah, we've been on the hip train for a little while and
uh yeah, it's working great for me.

531
00:34:39,710 --> 00:34:40,832
Yeah, we love it,

532
00:34:40,837 --> 00:34:48,582
Nate sent me a message because he got uh an email notification of our podcast a couple of
months back and he was like, great.

533
00:34:48,582 --> 00:34:51,257
Now I got to see you guys in my email.

534
00:34:51,257 --> 00:34:51,707
Yeah.

535
00:34:51,707 --> 00:34:52,499
oh

536
00:34:52,677 --> 00:34:55,723
Someone said the thing because we've been on the back of a magazine and stuff too.

537
00:34:55,723 --> 00:34:56,643
So it's like

538
00:34:56,643 --> 00:34:58,606
Yeah, well, didn't tell anyone I was doing this.

539
00:34:58,606 --> 00:35:04,714
So like, if you send one out and my face is on it, then it's gonna land and everyone from
our company and they're gonna be like, what the hell?

540
00:35:06,297 --> 00:35:07,654
Hopefully I don't get in trouble.

541
00:35:07,654 --> 00:35:09,897
We might need to do a one-off just for that guys.

542
00:35:09,897 --> 00:35:11,048
Seriously.

543
00:35:11,684 --> 00:35:12,744
I love it.

544
00:35:12,744 --> 00:35:13,757
I love it, man

545
00:35:13,757 --> 00:35:16,198
I got compared one time to Mike Holmes.

546
00:35:16,198 --> 00:35:26,291
actually, somebody from Canada told me you are like our Mike Holmes down there in, in, in
the U S and I wear that like a badge, right?

547
00:35:27,282 --> 00:35:34,204
I have only been told once, but I, that I'll take it, but I didn't get told that a long
time ago.

548
00:35:34,204 --> 00:35:36,531
So I, maybe I'm part of the family.

549
00:35:36,531 --> 00:35:37,081
don't know.

550
00:35:37,081 --> 00:35:38,115
Yeah, there you go.

551
00:35:38,115 --> 00:35:41,689
I'll see if I can get Mike to do it and it's not supposed to do that for you.

552
00:35:41,689 --> 00:35:42,441
That would be funny.

553
00:35:42,441 --> 00:35:46,438
It reminds me I've prepared a few questions for Nate.

554
00:35:46,721 --> 00:35:49,165
So Nate, have you ever met Mike Holmes?

555
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:50,080
Yeah, yeah, I have.

556
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,123
was at our first conference that we did and we, yeah.

557
00:35:53,241 --> 00:35:54,392
I actually knew the answer to that.

558
00:35:54,392 --> 00:35:56,344
I just thought I would ask it on air.

559
00:35:56,525 --> 00:35:59,288
I have met him too, but he wouldn't remember.

560
00:35:59,569 --> 00:36:03,113
He was at the International Builder Show and I walked by like, hey Mike, I'm Matt.

561
00:36:03,113 --> 00:36:04,775
And he was like, yeah, whatever, where to go.

562
00:36:04,775 --> 00:36:11,463
So anyway, there's uh And that's it.

563
00:36:11,463 --> 00:36:12,925
And that's the questions that I prepared.

564
00:36:12,925 --> 00:36:13,635
Yeah.

565
00:36:14,757 --> 00:36:16,741
you really doing research on this?

566
00:36:17,252 --> 00:36:18,745
I didn't actually prepare anything.

567
00:36:18,745 --> 00:36:21,000
It was just like at my phone screen.

568
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,091
Go figure.

569
00:36:22,312 --> 00:36:23,405
I love it man, I love it.

570
00:36:23,405 --> 00:36:26,485
Well, Nate, you gotta get your own show through their network, man.

571
00:36:26,485 --> 00:36:29,893
I Holmes Junior's got his show, we gotta get you one, come on.

572
00:36:30,297 --> 00:36:33,386
Yeah, I'll just keep doing what I'm doing for a while.

573
00:36:33,386 --> 00:36:36,345
And uh if that continues to turn heads, who knows what happens.

574
00:36:36,345 --> 00:36:37,467
But yeah.

575
00:36:37,898 --> 00:36:44,135
Speaking of that, know, doing what you're doing, give everybody a quick drop on where they
can follow you because you got quite a following, man.

576
00:36:45,263 --> 00:36:45,924
For sure, yeah.

577
00:36:45,924 --> 00:36:49,783
I'm on Instagram as my main platform at, inspector Nate.

578
00:36:49,783 --> 00:36:51,447
And I'm also on Facebook as well.

579
00:36:51,447 --> 00:36:52,981
I believe it's it's inspector Nate.

580
00:36:52,981 --> 00:36:54,803
If you search inspector Nate, it'll come.

581
00:36:55,028 --> 00:36:55,692
Very cool, man.

582
00:36:55,692 --> 00:36:56,421
Very cool.

583
00:36:56,421 --> 00:36:58,392
Yeah, I've been following you for a while, Nate.

584
00:36:58,392 --> 00:37:00,325
Nate puts out some great content.

585
00:37:00,325 --> 00:37:05,530
so for those of you out there that are not following him already, definitely check it out.

586
00:37:05,530 --> 00:37:09,503
I got some great stuff up there, You do a good job with the videos for sure.

587
00:37:09,807 --> 00:37:12,416
Thanks, I just try to have fun with it more than anything.

588
00:37:12,527 --> 00:37:15,318
I mean, that's really what it's all about, man.

589
00:37:15,318 --> 00:37:25,932
I mean, honestly, that comes through to me more than, than, you know, when you see people
that are either trying to do something maybe beyond what they're capable of, or just

590
00:37:25,932 --> 00:37:28,202
trying to be too serious or something, man.

591
00:37:28,363 --> 00:37:30,403
I just like when it's fun.

592
00:37:30,403 --> 00:37:33,564
And a lot of your stuff is just kind of really lighthearted and fun.

593
00:37:33,748 --> 00:37:37,286
Dude, life is too short to make boring, non-fun content.

594
00:37:37,497 --> 00:37:39,128
That's just it, honestly.

595
00:37:39,128 --> 00:37:44,493
And you you try and do something serious and everyone jumps all down your throat and it's
like, I don't need that in my life.

596
00:37:44,493 --> 00:37:45,444
I'll just do something silly.

597
00:37:45,444 --> 00:37:47,766
And then it's like, if you get mad at that, you look like a jerk.

598
00:37:47,766 --> 00:37:49,077
So who cares?

599
00:37:49,077 --> 00:37:50,544
Yeah.

600
00:37:50,544 --> 00:37:50,895
there.

601
00:37:50,895 --> 00:37:51,747
Yeah.

602
00:37:51,747 --> 00:37:53,749
But anyway, very cool, man.

603
00:37:53,749 --> 00:37:55,621
Well, Nate, thanks so much for coming on the show, dude.

604
00:37:55,621 --> 00:37:57,373
It's been a pleasure.

605
00:37:57,373 --> 00:38:00,376
you know, I would love it if you could come on down to inspection fuel.

606
00:38:00,376 --> 00:38:04,185
but if not, then, you know, hopefully we see you out there on the road one of these days.

607
00:38:04,185 --> 00:38:04,978
Yeah, that would be great.

608
00:38:04,978 --> 00:38:06,762
I'd love to see you guys as well.

609
00:38:06,868 --> 00:38:07,383
Very cool.

610
00:38:07,383 --> 00:38:10,721
We'll have to do a ride along show in Canada.

611
00:38:11,625 --> 00:38:13,453
Yeah, no, maybe not.

612
00:38:13,453 --> 00:38:18,885
I mean, I would say if you're going to visit, don't come in the winter, but I don't want
to tell you how to live your life.

613
00:38:18,885 --> 00:38:28,845
there's, you know, got the Mason Dixon line, but there's another line just north of that,
that it's decided by everybody else saying you need to come back in the summer, right?

614
00:38:28,845 --> 00:38:31,398
Like there's a need to come back in the summer line.

615
00:38:31,398 --> 00:38:35,602
And it's because it goes, I hear it from Seattle all the way to now Ottawa.

616
00:38:35,602 --> 00:38:37,203
you know,

617
00:38:37,405 --> 00:38:43,774
Well, when I first started inspecting, was inspecting privately for an engineering firm
and most of my work was up in the Yukon.

618
00:38:43,815 --> 00:38:48,321
So that was cold, especially in like November.

619
00:38:48,323 --> 00:38:48,655
Yeah.

620
00:38:48,655 --> 00:38:49,850
can't imagine.

621
00:38:50,164 --> 00:38:52,787
honestly, man, like how do you get it done in that time?

622
00:38:52,787 --> 00:38:58,484
I mean, for me, I mean, I guess, like, I guess we were talking about this a little bit
earlier, right?

623
00:38:58,484 --> 00:39:01,047
There's a lot of, there's gotta just be a lot of limitations, right?

624
00:39:01,047 --> 00:39:03,209
um

625
00:39:03,334 --> 00:39:12,582
like, you know, we, know that we're not going to be doing tons of inspections in the
winter, but yeah, it's like, you know, if your roof is fully covered, obviously one of the

626
00:39:12,582 --> 00:39:16,446
most important parts is inspecting from the attic to see if it's leaking and see how it's
performing.

627
00:39:16,446 --> 00:39:19,088
But I can't see the roof coverings or at least not all of it.

628
00:39:19,088 --> 00:39:20,950
I can't see all of the flashing.

629
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:22,852
So there's, limitations, the grading.

630
00:39:22,852 --> 00:39:24,513
You just, you can't see it, right?

631
00:39:24,513 --> 00:39:26,419
Um, you do what you can.

632
00:39:26,419 --> 00:39:31,002
And this past winter I had some, we got some real big snow falls.

633
00:39:31,002 --> 00:39:38,477
had some where I have these pair of boots that are up to my knees and I'm trudging around
in the snow.

634
00:39:38,477 --> 00:39:44,872
And there was a couple of times where we got like three feet of snow and it's like falling
into my boots that are at my knees.

635
00:39:44,872 --> 00:39:49,074
And it's like, you get inside and you're brushing off and you're soaked and you're like,
cool.

636
00:39:49,074 --> 00:39:51,016
I barely even started the inspection.

637
00:39:51,016 --> 00:39:52,677
I've only done exterior.

638
00:39:52,677 --> 00:39:55,559
So yeah, it's a different world sometimes, but.

639
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:56,081
uh

640
00:39:56,081 --> 00:39:58,541
can't even see how you can see anything at all.

641
00:39:58,541 --> 00:40:00,921
Like it just seems like, at least from the exterior.

642
00:40:02,061 --> 00:40:04,921
yeah, it just seems like, man, why even do it?

643
00:40:04,921 --> 00:40:06,581
I mean, it seems so.

644
00:40:07,101 --> 00:40:08,501
Yeah, I guess so.

645
00:40:08,501 --> 00:40:10,641
Yeah, that's a deal.

646
00:40:10,641 --> 00:40:12,820
We'll never see that here.

647
00:40:13,981 --> 00:40:16,381
Brad's never dealing with eye-stamming, you know?

648
00:40:16,381 --> 00:40:18,161
Eye-stams are something that we just do.

649
00:40:18,161 --> 00:40:20,561
We just see it online.

650
00:40:20,561 --> 00:40:21,921
That's it.

651
00:40:22,688 --> 00:40:24,568
Now I did winter inspections in Virginia.

652
00:40:24,568 --> 00:40:31,188
was one time, this was the beginning of winter where you could be forgiven for forgetting
a jacket until it snows.

653
00:40:31,188 --> 00:40:32,608
And then you just hate yourself.

654
00:40:32,608 --> 00:40:33,788
Like I know how to do this.

655
00:40:33,788 --> 00:40:36,048
Like I know what seasons are.

656
00:40:36,048 --> 00:40:42,628
And yeah, I inspected the exterior in the snow in a polo shirt and that was miserable.

657
00:40:42,688 --> 00:40:44,143
And I didn't make that mistake again.

658
00:40:44,143 --> 00:40:54,326
The trick is if you're trying to build your report on your phone as we all like to do and
your gloves, unless you've got those gloves that tap through like your bare hands, it's

659
00:40:54,587 --> 00:40:59,395
crazy snowy, it's blowing wind and you're like looking at your fingers and they're not
moving.

660
00:40:59,395 --> 00:41:01,466
And you're like, just type, just type.

661
00:41:01,466 --> 00:41:02,949
And you can't do anything sometimes.

662
00:41:02,949 --> 00:41:06,561
You have to get inside and spend about 15 minutes just warming yourself up.

663
00:41:06,561 --> 00:41:08,171
You can even continue.

664
00:41:08,365 --> 00:41:09,686
Absolutely not.

665
00:41:09,686 --> 00:41:12,248
I, man, no way.

666
00:41:12,248 --> 00:41:16,952
I mean, I hate like, was like 95 degrees outside today.

667
00:41:16,952 --> 00:41:19,964
was roasting hot, you know, just crazy.

668
00:41:19,964 --> 00:41:21,305
The addicts are just nuts.

669
00:41:21,305 --> 00:41:23,276
did a pre drywall inspection this morning.

670
00:41:23,276 --> 00:41:25,478
So it's like basically all outside.

671
00:41:25,478 --> 00:41:32,963
Um, I mean, it's rough, man, but it ain't like that cold, cold weather, man.

672
00:41:32,963 --> 00:41:34,194
I can't deal with that.

673
00:41:34,194 --> 00:41:34,755
mean,

674
00:41:34,755 --> 00:41:36,255
I get a bit of both here.

675
00:41:36,255 --> 00:41:41,075
like Ottawa has one of the biggest temperature swings of all the capital cities in the
world.

676
00:41:41,455 --> 00:41:50,755
Um, so we go, we get pretty cold, like, I don't know Fahrenheit, but like sometimes it'll
be like 40 below Celsius with the wind, um, which is real cold.

677
00:41:50,755 --> 00:41:54,215
And then in the summer, like right now we're in the middle of like a heat wave drought.

678
00:41:54,215 --> 00:42:03,155
And it's, know, like the, uh, a week ago I was in an attic and I just took my temperature
gun and shot it up the sheathing to see, and it was 150 degrees.

679
00:42:03,195 --> 00:42:03,833
So

680
00:42:03,833 --> 00:42:07,144
You know, we get we get some hot weather here too.

681
00:42:07,144 --> 00:42:09,945
So I really go ups and downs.

682
00:42:11,186 --> 00:42:11,956
That was Fahrenheit.

683
00:42:11,956 --> 00:42:15,768
It was a spoiler.

684
00:42:15,768 --> 00:42:20,770
uh was actually on fire.

685
00:42:22,812 --> 00:42:24,052
No, sorry.

686
00:42:24,192 --> 00:42:25,313
That's another Canadian thing.

687
00:42:25,313 --> 00:42:29,817
We like to flip between Celsius and Fahrenheit and yeah.

688
00:42:29,817 --> 00:42:33,571
not going to we don't have any idea what you're talking about.

689
00:42:33,571 --> 00:42:38,587
know, metric system, Celsius, like what?

690
00:42:38,587 --> 00:42:43,787
Well, because we got too much influence from you guys, just, know, people, how far is, how
far is that?

691
00:42:43,787 --> 00:42:45,327
We'll say, it's about an hour away.

692
00:42:45,327 --> 00:42:46,507
And you're like, what does that mean?

693
00:42:46,507 --> 00:42:48,407
Like, what is that in kilometers?

694
00:42:48,407 --> 00:42:50,747
And then it's sort of miles, who knows, right?

695
00:42:50,747 --> 00:42:51,647
How tall are you?

696
00:42:51,647 --> 00:42:54,607
Well, I'll give you my height in feet and inches.

697
00:42:54,607 --> 00:42:55,347
How much do I weigh?

698
00:42:55,347 --> 00:43:00,547
It'll be in pounds, but then other things will be measured in like, yeah, metric.

699
00:43:00,547 --> 00:43:01,974
We're all in the map.

700
00:43:01,974 --> 00:43:06,576
that's here in Houston, like half the people speak half English, half Spanish.

701
00:43:07,017 --> 00:43:09,779
Like they bounce back and forth from that.

702
00:43:09,779 --> 00:43:17,183
But, but I mean, you know, it's not quite the same as going from standard.

703
00:43:17,183 --> 00:43:17,844
What is it?

704
00:43:17,844 --> 00:43:20,265
Metric system to standard, I guess.

705
00:43:21,514 --> 00:43:25,667
thing is, it's like up there, just, do it so nicely all the time, you know?

706
00:43:25,968 --> 00:43:28,680
They might switch back and They code switch, but it's done nicely.

707
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:29,610
Yeah.

708
00:43:29,891 --> 00:43:30,471
Yeah.

709
00:43:30,471 --> 00:43:31,531
That's it.

710
00:43:32,273 --> 00:43:34,654
Yeah.

711
00:43:35,275 --> 00:43:35,605
Yeah.

712
00:43:35,605 --> 00:43:36,316
Yeah.

713
00:43:36,316 --> 00:43:36,895
I love it.

714
00:43:36,895 --> 00:43:38,506
comes off really nice.

715
00:43:38,907 --> 00:43:42,519
We're gonna have some words after we close that, after we're off air here.

716
00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:44,630
Because now I understand.

717
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:48,172
Now I see where everything, I see where you're going with everything.

718
00:43:48,172 --> 00:43:49,775
Everything was just snarky now.

719
00:43:49,775 --> 00:43:51,134
Yeah.

720
00:43:51,134 --> 00:43:52,304
Never nice.

721
00:43:53,325 --> 00:43:54,035
That's awesome.

722
00:43:54,035 --> 00:43:56,326
Well guys, give Inspector Nate a follow.

723
00:43:56,326 --> 00:43:58,867
Seriously, man, thanks so much for coming on the show.

724
00:43:58,867 --> 00:44:00,938
And thank you everybody so much for watching.

725
00:44:00,938 --> 00:44:01,718
This has been great.

726
00:44:01,718 --> 00:44:05,390
Nate, let's do it again, All right, good stuff.

727
00:44:05,390 --> 00:44:10,712
So guys, we will see you right here next time, better than ever on the Ride-A-Law.

728
00:44:10,712 --> 00:44:11,792
You got it.