DON'T GET LEFT BEHIND BY AI! How AI tools like CodePro are changing the way Home Inspectors access code
Artificial intelligence is changing how home inspections work — and how home inspectors deliver value. In this episode of The Ride Along Home Inspection Podcast, Brad Lowery and Matt Brading discuss how AI, instant access to information, and evolving buyer expectations are reshaping the home inspection industry. And there's nobody better to discuss that with than Karl Stump and Beau Brown of CodePro!
Today’s homebuyers arrive at inspections armed with research, thermal cameras, and AI tools, making it more important than ever for inspectors to provide deeper expertise, faster insights, and real-world guidance that goes beyond basic reporting. The conversation explores how inspectors can stay competitive, build trust, and adapt to a rapidly changing technology landscape.
Enter CodePro, a new app designed to help inspectors quickly understand building codes, avoid common construction mistakes, and explain complex regulations to clients with confidence. From AI adoption to building code awareness and future regulations, this discussion breaks down how inspectors can use technology to work smarter and deliver more value. Whether you’re a home inspector, homebuyer, builder, or real estate professional, this episode explains how AI and modern tools are shaping the future of home inspections.
Chapters:
00:02 - The critical shift: from being the home expert to offering more value with AI
00:47 - The evolution of home inspections amidst a wealth of buyer information
01:35 - The role of building codes and the introduction of CodePro
02:14 - What is CodePro and how it demystifies building codes
03:57 - Using CodePro to answer specific code questions across jurisdictions
04:52 - The importance of building standards over just quoting codes
05:25 - The national vs. local regulation landscape for home inspectors
06:32 - How CodePro aids in problem-solving and inspection decision-making
07:24 - The significance of code knowledge for exam success and daily inspections
08:49 - The advantage of code summaries in condensed, accessible formats
10:34 - How CodePro differs from generic search tools like Google or ChatGPT
11:14 - Real-world stories: AI’s rapid assistance in complex code and legal scenarios
13:14 - Addressing AI hallucinations and training specific to building codes
14:17 - The ongoing process of updating CodePro with regulation changes
15:45 - Navigating jurisdictional differences and amendments efficiently
16:13 - The role of CodePro in creating accurate, professional narratives 1
17:09 - The importance of understanding and interpreting codes for reports and legal use
22:07 - Managing remote inspections and team confidence using AI tools
22:45 - The necessity of adopting AI for competitive advantage in inspection firms
24:50 - Risks of homeowners and DIYers using AI to self-inspect
25:27 - The rapid evolution of AI-generated images and videos
26:24 - Why quick, accessible, and reliable code info improves inspection quality
33:16 - How industry events like IBS foster product knowledge and networking
47:26 - Upcoming opportunities at the International Builder Show
50:01 - Special giveaways, event info, and exciting new tools like solar inspections
52:29 - The importance of continual learning to stay relevant and authoritative
55:25 - The rollout of new AI tools for specific inspection types, like solar
56:14 - Final thoughts: Embrace technology, keep learning, and stay ahead in the industry
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Key Topics:
- The impact of abundant homebuyer information and AI on inspection work
- How CodePro simplifies understanding and accessing building codes
- The importance of real-time, accurate code references for inspections and legal proceedings - Strategies for integrating AI tools into daily workflows to increase efficiency and confidence
- The role of building codes as standards that protect safety and quality
- Using AI to generate inspection narratives and streamline report writing
- Remote management of inspection teams through AI and digital systems
- Upcoming industry events like IBS and opportunities for networking and product updates
- How AI advances challenge traditional notions of expertise and encourage continuous learning
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Guys, another episode of the ride along here and we are talking about something that is
absolutely critical, which is that home buyers have more information than ever before.
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And there's more access, they have more access to it.
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It's at their fingertips, it's on their phone.
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Chat GPT is one stroke of the keyboard away.
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And we as home inspectors, we are the experts.
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We've always been the experts on the home, but guys, now it's incumbent upon us.
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to find a way to offer even more value as home inspectors to home buyers that need as much
information as possible in a shorter time frame as possible.
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So Matt, this is something that is gonna be really heavy for a lot of inspectors to wrap
their minds around and get behind this year, but welcome back to the show,
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Yeah, so I mean, you know, AI and home inspections.
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mean, you know, home inspection really hasn't changed much through the years.
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uh Our mission is pretty much the same, you know, help buyers help them understand homes
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really, you know, what has changed, like you said, is the buyer's availability of
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I mean, even some of the tools, I mean, I got buyers sometimes that show up with their own
thermal cam.
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So I mean, these people are kind of, know, they're watching the videos out there, they're
using Chat GPT and they're kind of figuring out how to do this themselves.
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And so what we've got to do is we've got to stand cutting edge of and bring the value
behind, you know, what, and behind our expertise and everything.
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We have to make sure that we are, you know, steps ahead to make sure that we are more
valuable than just your homeowner with Chat GPT and a thermal cam.
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Yeah, and better and faster and more knowledge is the name of the game right now.
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And guys, seriously, if you guys don't get on board with this, you'll be replaced by
someone younger and better who is able to do this in a more timely fashion.
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And honestly, the, the, the window of time that the realtors and home buyers will pivot to
somebody quote unquote better is shorter than ever.
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So it's, it's seriously something that you guys need to be thinking about how you can be
incorporating AI into your workflows and, packing even more information to knowledge and
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ever into your home inspection.
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your home inspection reports.
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So we're gonna be talking about one way to do that, which is an exciting topic that every
single home inspector loves, which is code.
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The thing we're not supposed to quote, yeah.
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Or we're supposed to know.
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right.
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Yeah.
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So we've got, you know, Beau Brown back on the show, who was on the show back in 2025,
early 2025, I believe.
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And then, and then Karl Stump and we actually had these guys on in September in New
Orleans.
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We did some live recording and we talked all about this topic and we were all excited to
get it out at the end of 2025.
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but now here we are in 2026 and we thought, you know, a great way to, uh, kind of get the
year started was to bring you guys back on and let's bring up those topics and really get,
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uh, um, know, Code Pro, uh, out there and let everybody know what it's all about.
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So Beau, Karl welcome to the show guys.
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Happy to be here.
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So.
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Matt.
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I'm actually, I was thinking about it before the show.
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I'm actually excited that that audio got deleted.
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Cause I think that we're it's, it is crazy how fast things are changing right now.
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Yeah.
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Beau was awful.
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That's, that's part of it, but things that things are changing so rapidly right now with
AI and technology, it's very hard to keep up with.
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we're, going to be rolling out an even more updated version.
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I've got a lot of stuff.
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that's new with CodePro and AI that I want to talk about and that I'm excited to bring to
home inspectors out there.
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Well, let's just like give everybody, like we keep saying this word CodePro, but let's
just get to the meat and potatoes.
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What is it?
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What is CodePro?
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Let everybody know.
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uh CodePro is...
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Yeah, I know, right?
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I'll jump in real quick here, give you a summary.
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uh CodePro is an app basically designed for uh home inspectors, builders, DIYers, anybody
that's ever had to worry about a building code or is concerned about the building codes in
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their profession or just in a project that they've got going on.
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You can ask it questions about the building codes.
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It's going to give you answers for the code.
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for your specific area, for your specific issue only, and then it's going to tell you why
that's a problem and where the most common mistake is.
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And it's all geared around demystifying code and making it so that it's as easy as
possible to get answers that are 100 % accurate and on the topic that you need answers on.
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Excellent.
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Okay, so on that topic, like as inspectors, at least most of us, um I don't know, I mean,
you guys are regulated out there in Utah, is that correct?
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Or do you have licensing or is it headed that direction?
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it's headed that direction.
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We could do whole podcast on how they haven't quite figured out how they're going to
regulate us, but they're going to do it.
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They've decided that.
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But most states are and so like, know, with that being said, like it's very clear.
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I don't know how it is up there, but like in Texas and a lot of states, it's very clear
that as general home inspectors, we are not code inspectors.
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And so everyone kind of rides that we are not code inspectors.
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But I mean, you know, so with that being said, like how does having the fast, accurate
building code at your fingertips, like how does that benefit home inspectors?
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ah You know what?
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So you don't have to be able to quote the code and know the code to be able to benefit
from understanding that earthquake straps are going to prevent your water heater from
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dancing around the house when you have an earthquake, which would lead to break in
plumbing, which would mean that now a disaster has turned into a flood.
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ah And there's a code for that.
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And if you're a DIYer and you're going, why is this the code?
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is there a regulation or something for this?
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If I put it in a different spot in my house, can I skip that?
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There's a million questions around the code.
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You don't have to understand what that code is to want to know answers around it.
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And so that's what this is designed for.
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It's to give you the answers, not just the code.
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it also comes back to the standard, right?
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Building codes are the standard for building.
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And if you have no standard towards building, how can you keep people safe, make sure
things that are conditionally sound and are functioning properly, how do you determine
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that?
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So although we're not quoting code as home inspectors, we still have to abide by a
standard.
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There needs to be something to go back to.
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Well, I think that we really need to touch on that, right?
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Because like when it comes to code, I asked you guys this question, but you guys know, and
for those of you watching, I've been using CodePro for a long time now.
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For several months, you guys have let me use it and kind of get to know it a little bit.
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I love it.
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I use it a lot.
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I use it a lot more than I thought I would.
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And the thing is, a lot of inspectors are like, well, we're not code inspectors, but I
mean...
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at least in states that are regulated that we had to take the national home inspectors
exam and go, Beau, I know you've taken that as well.
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What was that all about code, right?
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Tell me if those aren't part of home inspection, then how come we have to be so
knowledgeable on codes to pass a test that most people fail.
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They actually are a very big part of our job.
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It's just like you said, Karl, we don't exactly quote code in our home inspection reports.
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But do we use code to find problems or to know what is right and what's wrong?
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Absolutely.
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We have to be very knowledgeable on code.
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And as we all know, uh going through a uh book is cumbersome, difficult.
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It's a lot to carry around.
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If you're going to try to carry that thing around, there's a lot to go through.
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It's massive.
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And so to go through and try to interpret it, there's a lot of different things.
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Sometimes you're looking for something, uh one piece of code you might have to visit.
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a couple of different spots inside that book to get exactly what you're looking for.
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mean, it's a lot, right?
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Whereas like, know, CodePro is an app where you can just speak into your phone and ask it
what you want to ask it and boom, it spits it out.
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So to those people that say we aren't code inspectors, we don't need this.
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I beg to differ.
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You absolutely do need that.
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Now I want to talk about something a little bit later that I do to use CodePro to help
make some narratives for my home inspection reports.
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But I want to get into that a little bit later because I know we've got some other
questions for you guys.
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one of the things that I love about this app seriously is that it condenses what is a
regularly updated document that is hundreds and hundreds of pages long.
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I mean, it's a Bible that is condensed down to a Bible app for builders, right?
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And in an age where we've had Kindle and gosh, mean, Barnes and Noble had their tablet for
books for a long time.
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There's been digestible ways that we can take the printed word and all the information
that we need in any profession and consume it.
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in a very digestible way right here on a device, but we haven't done that for building
code.
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And so you guys have solved for that.
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This is the Amazon Kindle of building code.
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And so I think this just makes everybody that much smarter and that more knowledgeable.
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It also removes the excuse for not knowing it, right?
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You can't just sit here and take away this whole, well, you know, I'm not supposed to
quote it, boy, you better know it.
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And you better know it better than the guy who's right down the street from you, who's
wanting to do this job for cheaper if you think you're going to continue to justify your
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price.
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So you need to be using these tools.
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And I love that you guys have put this out there, seriously.
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So Karl, um how does CodePro differ from just like using Google or Chat GPT?
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That's a great question.
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That's actually one of the most common questions that I get personally is why can't I just
use chat, chat GPT?
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It searches the whole internet.
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It'll find the answer for me.
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And the question and the answer to that question is, is it's not trained on building code.
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Chat GPT is great for general knowledge and you're right.
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It can search the entire internet.
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It'll come up with questions, but it's not trained specifically on building code.
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And furthermore, it's not trained specifically on building codes for your state and local
jurisdiction.
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CodePro is.
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So it's getting the answers from the right source.
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think this uh now I think it's story time in the podcast.
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Do we have some music we can put over this like some story time music we can drop on this?
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uh Yeah, just like background, know, that got to get us in the mood.
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It's story time.
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So I was actually on the phone the other day with Beau and I called him.
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Is it going to sound completely off topic?
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It was not at nighttime.
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It was it was in the day.
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It wasn't weird.
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Don't make it weird.
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It was there in the day.
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And this is gonna seem off topic, but I promise I'll get there.
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For those of you that don't know, I'm eclectic in my musical tastes, okay?
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And one of those things is heavy metal.
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And Beau is very eclectic in his musical taste too.
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I actually don't know what all he likes, but I know he's all over the place.
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So sometimes I bring this to him.
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But anyway, long story short, I was using Chat GPT because for those of who know, Megadeth
just came out with a new album.
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It's self-titled.
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It is excellent, by the way.
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But they put a Metallica song on the end of that album.
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They recorded Ride the Lightning.
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OK, that might not seem like it has anything to do with anything, but see, Metallica will
sue anybody for anything.
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ah If you just whisper their name in the wrong place, Metallica is going to sue you.
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And so why was uh Megadeth able to release this on their album?
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I was curious about that.
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Even though I know that Dave Mustaine used to be in Metallica a long time ago, I still was
wondering about that.
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So I asked chat GPT.
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Why was Megadeth able to release a uh Metallica song, Ride the Lightning on their new
album?
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And Chat GPT told me Megadeth has never recorded and released Ride the Lightning on one of
their releases on one of their albums.
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And to which I told Chat GPT, well, it most certainly has on the 2026 self-titled album.
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is the last song.
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And so I thought that was funny because Chat GPT was just straight up wrong.
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And then it turned around and it goes
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yeah, you're right.
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On their self-titled 2026 release, the last song is Ride the Lightning by Metallica.
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And then I went down a rabbit hole of why that happened.
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But that's why I called Beau, because I was like, you know, we have AI talks all the time.
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And I was like, check out how wrong this was.
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That's where I brought the AI thing into the app, right?
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Because I started explaining that, well, that was one of the first problems that Karl and
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with AI is that chat GPT was confidently wrong about code.
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It's because it's getting its information from such a broad database on the internet.
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There's also people on the internet that are confidently wrong.
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It's going to come back to you with that same level of confidence.
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And the only way to eliminate that problem is to eliminate the confidently wrong answers
or the wrong data pool.
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And ah there's nothing else out there that's trained on just one specific data pool here
and won't get it wrong.
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And it's really essential in building code that you get correct answers that are not
confidently wrong.
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And even after we trained it specifically just on building code,
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there was still a long ways to still get it to give you the correct answer in the correct
way.
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mean, Karl could talk in depth about some of the stumbling blocks that we had along the
way to try and figure that out.
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Yeah, I know you guys have been watching.
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that AI has that problem, right?
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It can hallucinate.
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We're not to the point where it's right every single time.
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And I don't want to mislead anybody to say CodePro is a hundred percent accurate at all
times, but it is going to give you the exact code source.
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And then it's going to give you a link to the website to where you can go up and verify
that code.
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So the question is becomes how confident do you need to be about this code?
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half the problem is knowing where to look, right?
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You got a thousand page document, you have a question in your mind, okay, where do I find
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Well, if you can ask a question, it gives you the source and then you can go to the
document and go right to that source and go, oh, yep, I see it right here.
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It's right, we verified it, we're good.
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So how crucial is it?
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How critical?
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You decide.
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If it's a general, I can just get by with this or I need to take this to court, then you
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Now that makes sense.
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Now in the way that you guys have gone about training, and I'm also curious in how y'all
have gone about updating it, like how regularly do you guys retrain it or feed it new
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information or is it basically self-taught in terms of updating itself whenever there's a
new update to the building code that comes out?
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Yeah, so every three years, typically there's a code cycle, right?
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So ICC puts out different codes every three years.
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We actually just went through one in 2025 and it's going to need constant updating.
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And also you have local jurisdictions and states that randomly at their discretion say,
okay, we're going to update it.
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And so we do searches every month using AI and we go through and we search all that
documentation.
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One of the biggest,
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I guess labor intensive tasks of building this was getting all the sources of the code and
depending on what state you're in and what jurisdiction you're in.
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mean, you try to go and just find out what codes you should be looking at that in of
itself took me months to go through all 50 states and figure that out and then compile
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that information.
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It's all available on our website, coproapp.com.
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can click on your state, find out exactly what's going on and we do keep it regularly
updated.
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Yeah, I mean, it is brutal to go digging through code.
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It really is.
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And I mean, I've done it for years and for a long time, I carried around one of those code
checkbooks.
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Y'all familiar with those?
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Like it is kind of like an equivalent to code.
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And those were great because it had a lot of stuff.
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didn't have everything.
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And obviously if they were going to fit a lot of information in this book, they were going
to have to summarize it quite a bit.
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you got you in the right direction.
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Sometimes you'd have to get out the book.
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would tell you where to go.
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And then you get out the book and you read the code and kind of dig a little bit deeper.
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But, just having code at my fingertips has changed a lot.
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And that, and what I was talking about earlier was writing home inspection narratives.
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So I myself, just like a lot of home inspectors, when I started my company, I purchased a
template from a experienced inspector.
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When I started, I had 25 years of experience in narratives already on my system, which is
pretty cool because in addition to all the training that I had, all those narratives came
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from an experienced home inspector.
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So it's essentially like another form of training.
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It really helped me determine not only what I was supposed to be looking at, but how I was
supposed to write up what I was looking at, because it doesn't matter.
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You can have thousands of narratives.
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You still have to write one every now and again.
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So it really helped direct me in how to do that.
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um Which is fine.
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I did that for years uh Maybe create you because I'm constantly a couple times a week
creating something new that something I find that's new or perspective of something or or
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things change and so You know codes change or standards change and so I have to change
those narratives But what I found was after using that for years and using those
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narratives for years They kind of became a little bit outdated and so I would look at them
and be like
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I can do better than this.
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And so I developed a method of grabbing, you know, saying whatever the problem is.
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And this might've been a narrative that I use on, you know, 95 % of my reports, but I
looked at them sometimes and thought, man, this can be done better.
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And so I would just, whatever the problem was that I was putting a narrative in for, I
just said that problem into code pro and it spit out everything you needed to know about
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it.
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The code reference, why it's a problem.
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all of that stuff.
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Then I just copied that into chat GPT and said, Hey, Chat GPT, take this information and
summarize it into a narrative for a home inspection report, but remove any code reference
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because obviously I'm not supposed to quote code, right?
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But I use the code to create my narrative.
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I mean, Chat GPT didn't do anything that I wouldn't have done, but it did it in a much
cleaner, much more professional way.
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And I've been slowly but surely updating a lot of narratives in my uh library by using
that methods, just taking whatever problem I see.
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And I've been new things to take them, run them through CodePro.
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CodePro gives you accurate information.
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And then you just run that to Chat GPT and create a narrative.
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Well, and beyond being like an inspector, there's a couple of contractors here in Utah
that do uh unique tiny home builds.
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And I don't know if you guys know a lot about construction constraints when it comes to
building those tiny homes, but trying to build a really, really small house and get
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everything really close together and staying within the confines of code and keeping the
things that are supposed to be apart from each other, apart from each other, the
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appropriate distances.
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can get really difficult.
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And there's a couple of contractors that have called me regularly asking for uh questions
around how they should build something in a house.
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And if I don't know the answer, I can look it up on CodePro and get an answer in about 30
seconds and look like I'm a freaking genius, man.
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I know the code, all the codes, all the time.
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And here's soon.
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I'm gonna be telling those guys, you just need to download the app.
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Stop calling me.
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I know, I don't.
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That's the thing, it's like I love being that guy.
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I get it, man.
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That's been happening to me for years.
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People ask me construction questions, building questions, code questions.
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I've been answering these questions for years, but the way I go about it these days is
different.
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I know it's a lot easier to obtain answers.
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I think to speak back to Brad's point, loop it back to where we started on this thing was
that if you're in business for yourself or you're running a multi-inspector firm,
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strategic innovation has to be at the top of your list.
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You have to be innovating in that business.
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And the only way to innovate is to be developing yourself in new ways and gaining
knowledge in different ways.
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And we're at the cutting edge of that right now.
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You have to dig in.
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can't just get by going through the paces and showing up every day like you always have.
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You've got to be learning new things, creating new tools for yourself.
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And I think that if you're trying to add value as a home inspector, you need to at least
know what are the codes adopted for my state.
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Because before I started working on CodePro, I'd been an inspector for six or seven years,
guys.
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And I'm going to tell you something.
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I didn't know.
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What was...
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the codes, where do I find the amendments?
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That's sad to say, but I didn't.
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And I bet there's a lot of inspectors out there that don't know what the codes are or
where to find them for their local jurisdiction.
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Use the CodePro app website, because to be honest, there wasn't really a good resource for
this until we built it.
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We solved the pain point and we solved it.
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Know the codes, know where to find them.
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And that way, when people come to you and they have these questions,
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You can position yourself as an expert and then the word spreads about you and you start
to set yourself apart from the guys that are just going through the paces and screwing
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around.
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Yeah, no, that's huge, man.
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And the other thing too, that I want to get at, it's, and we were talking about this
before we hit record here, Karl, uh part and parcel with this is adoption of AI tools as
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well, which again, we've done a whole other episode, Matt and Beau almost fought each
other through the screen and then they almost fought each other at field about it, you
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know, but, but I feel like, Beau, kind of feel like Matt's come around a little bit, don't
you?
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Yeah, I told you, I told you it was gonna happen.
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If you wanted to stay at the front of this, you gotta adopt the AI.
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guys want to pulling up old baggage, we can, man.
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like, position is actually still the same.
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I like the fact that we use it to make ourselves better.
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What I didn't like is kind of the reason why we're having some of these conversations is
because I feel like this technology to some degree is going to empower homeowners to feel
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like they can do this themselves.
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And I don't think that's very good.
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And I'm not saying it from a perspective of I don't want to lose the business.
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I'm saying it from a perspective of they're not going to be that good at it.
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between knowing how to find code and knowing how to interpret it and understand it.
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my whole bit with uh AI this whole time has been people not understanding that, like
homeowners not understanding that.
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And again, like there's plenty of people out there that want to hire a home inspector.
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I don't think I'm like losing business over it.
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What I'm more concerned about are those people that think I can do this myself.
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I don't need to get that guy in.
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I don't worry about losing their business.
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I worry for them.
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Yeah, well, I hear that.
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oh
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is so at their fingertips that they can go in there and be like, I don't need a home
inspector.
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I was going to take these pictures and stuff.
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mean, and this is just, um, you know, and put them in chat GPT or, or whatever.
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And then, and then I'll do my own home inspection.
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But I mean, like just, we said it today.
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It can totally, I mean, not maybe not code pro because the way it's trained, but like
these people that think they can do that.
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Chat GPT and these AI tools, it can be wrong.
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I mean, I have people all the time that go on my videos and point out things and they are
so just like Chat GPT, they are so competent in being wrong.
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They have no idea what they're talking about, but they're so happy to tell me I don't know
what I'm talking about.
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Those are the people that are going to go do their own home inspection and fail miserably.
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That's feel for them, I guess.
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Well, and that's the other thing too.
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mean, the tools are catching up faster than ever.
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I I remember it wasn't even two years ago.
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uh Barely a year ago, we were laughing about AI generated images and people having six
fingers and three arms.
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And now people are making full on AI generated videos, you know, with facial swapping and
it looks very, very real.
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You know, it's starting to fool some old timers out there that are sharing these things
online.
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But my question is, it's still not foolproof.
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So Karl, what
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is really the biggest incentive for inspectors to start adopting these tools now when
they're still not completely foolproof.
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I mean, what is foolproof, to be honest?
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mean, even us as home inspectors, have errors and omissions.
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We do the best we can.
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We're human, right?
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So there are mistakes everywhere.
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But the thing is, it doesn't have to be foolproof to really increase the quality of your
business and your ability to create a value for your client.
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And I've got lots of ways that I do that with AI.
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And no, it's not perfect, but neither are any of us.
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And we're still creating value for our clients.
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If you don't get on it now, you're going to be like the old guy that never used the
computer and he's just so lost, he had nowhere to start.
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And that's where you do not want to be.
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You got to, you got to take it one bite at a time.
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I mean, I can totally see that because like, you know, when I'm doing inspections, um, you
know, or when I'm using CodePro, should say, or CodePro or chat GPT, whatever it is, any
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type of AI tool, um, you have to know what you're asking.
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And just like the story I was telling them that I was talking about the other day, I
usually already kind of know the answer.
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I'm just either asking it for verification or specifics.
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And sometimes I mean,
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Look, I wouldn't be asking the question if I wasn't already knowledgeable in it.
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I asked the question in chat GPT sometimes it'll spit out the wrong answer.
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I know enough to know when it's wrong, but that's just because I'm, I've been doing home
inspection for a long time.
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I was trained in it.
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I was trained in code.
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And so, you know, I know that, um, chat GPT, I think when we were working out some bugs,
we had some issues with that too.
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Right.
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Because like say I've been using it for months and I feel like I reached out to you guys
one time and went, Hey, this is wrong.
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But it was just a bug you worked through, but you guys have worked through all this stuff.
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to be 100 % never ever infallible.
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It's not quite to that stage yet.
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just to exactly what your example was, I use it all the time for like, I see that that
exhaust vent on the side of the house is pretty close to the window.
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I can't remember if it's supposed to be 36 inches or 48 inches.
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I know it's one of those two.
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And if I'm going to call it out.
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and say that it's too close to window, I'd better know the distance or I'm to look like a
idiot if it's 48 inches and it's actually 47 inches away, something like that.
389
00:27:31,848 --> 00:27:40,652
And so to be able to just quickly whip out Code Pro and be like, hey, how far is an
exhaust vent supposed to be from an opening window?
390
00:27:40,652 --> 00:27:42,152
And it just spit out the answer.
391
00:27:42,152 --> 00:27:51,176
I knew that code existed, but I now can quickly verify, yeah, this is the exact number and
the exact regulation and...
392
00:27:51,357 --> 00:27:55,270
And yes, and if it changed, I will get the update on it.
393
00:27:55,270 --> 00:28:04,228
A great example of that is you used to have the occupant door in the house in Utah uh from
the garage to the house.
394
00:28:04,228 --> 00:28:10,493
The regulation said that it had to be self-closing and then it changed it to
self-latching.
395
00:28:10,493 --> 00:28:14,096
And then Utah completely omitted that sentence.
396
00:28:14,517 --> 00:28:18,830
And so now there is no code in Utah.
397
00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:24,023
for your occupant door from your house to garage to be self-closing or anything like that.
398
00:28:24,023 --> 00:28:26,284
It just has to be weather sealed.
399
00:28:26,564 --> 00:28:28,285
And that's it.
400
00:28:28,545 --> 00:28:29,966
and fire-rated.
401
00:28:29,966 --> 00:28:37,250
But the self-closing, self-latching thing, which still exists in other states all over the
place, doesn't exist here.
402
00:28:37,250 --> 00:28:44,354
And as an inspector, if you walk in from out of state and call that out as a regulatory
action, everybody here is going to go, you're an idiot, man.
403
00:28:44,354 --> 00:28:45,515
That's not code.
404
00:28:45,855 --> 00:28:47,976
And it's because they removed that.
405
00:28:48,155 --> 00:28:57,340
that's the big thing with CodePro is it's looking at the international documents and then
it's cross-referencing the amendments and it's prioritizing the amendments per your
406
00:28:57,340 --> 00:28:58,961
particular area.
407
00:28:58,981 --> 00:29:00,312
And that's where people get hung up.
408
00:29:00,312 --> 00:29:00,572
Okay.
409
00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:10,147
Maybe, you know, there's a regulation in the 2021 IRC, but what does the amendment
document say and how does it amend that code to your particular area?
410
00:29:10,147 --> 00:29:15,234
That's really important because you can get yourself in trouble by saying confidently that
411
00:29:15,234 --> 00:29:17,035
Like you said, confidently wrong.
412
00:29:17,035 --> 00:29:18,905
You shared a use case, Matt.
413
00:29:18,905 --> 00:29:19,715
I'll share one with you.
414
00:29:19,715 --> 00:29:24,947
I had just yesterday with a client buying a $15 million house in Hawaii.
415
00:29:24,947 --> 00:29:26,798
Okay, because I run a home inspection too.
416
00:29:26,798 --> 00:29:29,218
I'm doing the app thing on the side really.
417
00:29:29,218 --> 00:29:32,419
uh I $15 million house in Hawaii.
418
00:29:32,419 --> 00:29:33,500
They're building it.
419
00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:36,511
Called me up, said, hey, here you're the guy to go to.
420
00:29:36,511 --> 00:29:37,361
We're building the house.
421
00:29:37,361 --> 00:29:39,151
We want to make sure we get the phase inspections.
422
00:29:39,151 --> 00:29:41,812
And now he's consulting with me.
423
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,001
So he said, hey, I got this message from the builder.
424
00:29:44,001 --> 00:29:51,955
They want to bury the AV codes if I can't come up with exactly where I want them
terminated and exactly what I want hooked up.
425
00:29:51,955 --> 00:30:00,178
But he said, I have a feeling they're in cahoots with the AV company and they're trying to
push me to get this stuff done and get more money out of me.
426
00:30:00,178 --> 00:30:05,651
And he said, I don't feel good about this and I don't know enough about code, but it just
doesn't sound right.
427
00:30:05,651 --> 00:30:07,742
Can you look into this for me?
428
00:30:08,450 --> 00:30:11,042
So quickly with AI, was able to solve that problem.
429
00:30:11,042 --> 00:30:22,809
Whereas it would have taken me half a day to research all that before I typed his, I
literally took his email thread from his builder, dropped it into chat GPT and said,
430
00:30:22,809 --> 00:30:24,260
summarize this.
431
00:30:24,901 --> 00:30:26,752
And it gave me a summarization.
432
00:30:26,752 --> 00:30:33,376
I dropped that into code pro, asked it the question, gave it back to chat GPT, told it to
set to make me up an email to the guy.
433
00:30:33,654 --> 00:30:35,716
I gave him the, I sent him an email.
434
00:30:35,716 --> 00:30:36,176
I read it.
435
00:30:36,176 --> 00:30:37,897
I'm like, this is the most professional thing.
436
00:30:37,897 --> 00:30:40,259
It had the code quotes, everything in it.
437
00:30:40,259 --> 00:30:42,110
And it totally put the builder to shame really.
438
00:30:42,110 --> 00:30:44,492
And it's like, I didn't, I wasn't beating up on the builder.
439
00:30:44,492 --> 00:30:46,018
Cause I know we've talked a lot about that.
440
00:30:46,018 --> 00:30:54,298
It's like, I'm not here to beat up on the builder, but I said, Hey, make sure you go to
the builder and say, where can you, can you tell me where you're getting this information
441
00:30:54,298 --> 00:30:55,749
that we need to have these terminations?
442
00:30:55,749 --> 00:31:01,974
And cause the builder was saying they couldn't terminate it to a junction box with, with a
cover plate, AV low voltage.
443
00:31:01,974 --> 00:31:02,804
Why?
444
00:31:02,988 --> 00:31:03,719
Why can't it?
445
00:31:03,719 --> 00:31:04,989
And we wanted to dispel that.
446
00:31:04,989 --> 00:31:06,711
So ask them, where are you getting this information?
447
00:31:06,711 --> 00:31:07,842
Can you cite a code?
448
00:31:07,842 --> 00:31:11,765
Can you tell me if you've had issues with the, with the County inspector, what's going on?
449
00:31:11,765 --> 00:31:14,066
And then it's like, you're not saying you're wrong.
450
00:31:14,066 --> 00:31:20,701
You're just saying, give me the information I need, put them on the spot a little bit, but
that's just a, a really great use case.
451
00:31:20,701 --> 00:31:23,083
And then I go looking like the expert to this guy.
452
00:31:23,083 --> 00:31:29,903
You think he's not going to tell his friends about me when, they're buying a house and
getting things built, especially with that lightning quick response.
453
00:31:29,903 --> 00:31:31,903
Not if you made him look bad, man.
454
00:31:31,903 --> 00:31:32,383
No way.
455
00:31:32,383 --> 00:31:33,783
He's not going to tell anybody.
456
00:31:34,483 --> 00:31:37,423
No, think that's, totally true, man.
457
00:31:37,423 --> 00:31:42,863
I mean, being able to, uh, you know, formulate a response, like an irrefutable response.
458
00:31:42,863 --> 00:31:47,383
And I think you brought up a good point, like, uh, something we want to talk about anyway.
459
00:31:47,543 --> 00:31:49,323
You know, builders can use this too.
460
00:31:49,323 --> 00:31:51,943
This is not a home inspectors app.
461
00:31:52,123 --> 00:31:56,079
Like this is, this is an app for builders tradesmen.
462
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:59,181
uh real estate professionals, home inspectors.
463
00:31:59,339 --> 00:32:07,437
I mean, there are a lot of people that could benefit from access to accurate code
information at the fingertips.
464
00:32:08,155 --> 00:32:15,077
One thing that I want to talk about though is, because Karl, you're already talking about
your home inspection company in Hawaii.
465
00:32:15,657 --> 00:32:17,578
One, how do you manage that remotely?
466
00:32:17,578 --> 00:32:18,878
That's massive, man.
467
00:32:18,878 --> 00:32:21,699
mean, because last time we talked to you, you were in Montana.
468
00:32:21,699 --> 00:32:33,043
But on top of that, how can readily accessible code information like this really help to
make for a more unified team when you're running a multi-inspector firm?
469
00:32:33,538 --> 00:32:34,779
Great question.
470
00:32:34,779 --> 00:32:39,722
I'll spend sometimes a month or two away from my business and it runs very efficiently.
471
00:32:40,143 --> 00:32:42,864
It runs efficiently due to systems and processes.
472
00:32:42,864 --> 00:32:47,828
And to be completely honest, most of the systems and processes that I've put in place,
I've used AI.
473
00:32:47,828 --> 00:32:56,253
I got really passionate about AI as soon as it came out and I've been using tools to just
system, systematize everything.
474
00:32:56,353 --> 00:33:01,327
But to speak on how it's changed, how CodePro specifically has changed my business.
475
00:33:01,327 --> 00:33:03,618
I used to get five calls a day.
476
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,111
from my inspectors saying, well, what about this?
477
00:33:06,111 --> 00:33:06,801
And what about that?
478
00:33:06,801 --> 00:33:07,432
What about this?
479
00:33:07,432 --> 00:33:10,253
They're asking me questions and I'm basically just consulting with them.
480
00:33:10,253 --> 00:33:14,215
Now I say, you know, CodePro has a team subscription, right?
481
00:33:14,215 --> 00:33:17,426
So you can sign up your whole team under one subscription.
482
00:33:17,426 --> 00:33:21,558
So the business owner pays for it, gives every, sends everybody an email.
483
00:33:21,558 --> 00:33:22,578
They sign up.
484
00:33:22,578 --> 00:33:23,979
Now all my guys are on it.
485
00:33:23,979 --> 00:33:25,880
You know how many calls I get a day?
486
00:33:25,940 --> 00:33:29,241
It's like basic questions about like, how should I organize the report?
487
00:33:29,241 --> 00:33:31,158
I don't get code questions anymore.
488
00:33:31,158 --> 00:33:35,102
And my guys are accurate and confident in their answers because they're using it on a
daily basis.
489
00:33:35,102 --> 00:33:37,665
I can go in look at their history and see what they're chatting about.
490
00:33:37,665 --> 00:33:38,706
It's kind of fun.
491
00:33:39,479 --> 00:33:40,343
Now that's cool,
492
00:33:40,343 --> 00:33:41,943
don't have a team subscription.
493
00:33:41,943 --> 00:33:44,563
got to talk to you guys about that.
494
00:33:44,563 --> 00:33:46,183
I got to my team on it.
495
00:33:46,183 --> 00:33:48,283
I'm still the go-to guy to ask question.
496
00:33:48,283 --> 00:33:49,626
I need to get my team on it.
497
00:33:49,626 --> 00:33:51,587
We need at least three videos a month.
498
00:33:51,587 --> 00:33:53,019
You'll get a team subscription for free.
499
00:33:53,019 --> 00:33:53,259
All right.
500
00:33:53,259 --> 00:33:58,193
That's, that's, let me step in here before Karl starts giving things away.
501
00:33:58,193 --> 00:33:59,183
All right.
502
00:34:00,022 --> 00:34:01,862
Hahahaha
503
00:34:01,862 --> 00:34:02,978
The podcast
504
00:34:02,978 --> 00:34:04,544
isn't boring at least.
505
00:34:04,775 --> 00:34:08,344
business relations there, the influencer relations.
506
00:34:10,076 --> 00:34:11,386
Well, I mean, that's the deal, man.
507
00:34:11,386 --> 00:34:21,330
Like we're over here talking about this, but I mean, like I have, I've been using it in
the field for months and, um, and I, and I really, you know, I can speak from a user
508
00:34:21,330 --> 00:34:22,421
perspective.
509
00:34:22,421 --> 00:34:30,004
I mean, you guys are my friends, but I mean, I, I, I'm, I'm, not getting paid to do this,
right?
510
00:34:30,004 --> 00:34:31,750
You guys were like, Hey, can you test this out?
511
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:33,666
I was like, yeah, let me test it out.
512
00:34:33,666 --> 00:34:36,967
And, um, and if it sucked, would tell you it sucked.
513
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:38,599
But it just doesn't, man.
514
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:41,548
It's been really cool to use.
515
00:34:41,548 --> 00:34:43,168
let me interrupt you for a second.
516
00:34:43,168 --> 00:34:46,408
Karl might kill me for doing this, but do you have a complaint about it?
517
00:34:46,408 --> 00:34:51,868
Because there's an update coming out here very, very soon, that whatever complaints you
might have might even be getting solved.
518
00:34:51,868 --> 00:34:54,648
But I just want to know, do you have a complaint about it?
519
00:34:54,648 --> 00:34:59,060
Is there something you wish it would do better from a home inspector point of view?
520
00:34:59,555 --> 00:35:01,175
of anything.
521
00:35:04,015 --> 00:35:12,375
A lot of the things that I had already brought up to me, like at one point you couldn't
select text, text out of it and copy it and paste it.
522
00:35:12,375 --> 00:35:14,355
That was a thing that you couldn't do in the beginning.
523
00:35:14,355 --> 00:35:16,595
And that got stalls.
524
00:35:17,875 --> 00:35:19,775
uh, I can't think.
525
00:35:19,775 --> 00:35:24,387
There's been a couple of little bugs and stuff here and there that I was like, Hey, what
about this and that?
526
00:35:24,387 --> 00:35:27,113
I I've told you guys any type of constructive criticism I have.
527
00:35:27,113 --> 00:35:30,539
At this point, I don't know what there is to improve.
528
00:35:31,319 --> 00:35:32,152
Man, that's huge.
529
00:35:32,152 --> 00:35:33,243
Yeah.
530
00:35:33,243 --> 00:35:35,655
And that's basically where we think we are too.
531
00:35:35,655 --> 00:35:45,651
uh Last time we talked when we were at inspection fuel, it was right at that crucial edge
of like, okay, we've pretty much got most of the bugs figured out.
532
00:35:45,651 --> 00:35:46,781
We're pretty much ready to roll out.
533
00:35:46,781 --> 00:35:47,582
It's roll out.
534
00:35:47,582 --> 00:35:48,142
We're done.
535
00:35:48,142 --> 00:35:51,965
ah And it's time to rock and roll with this thing.
536
00:35:51,965 --> 00:35:53,425
All the bugs are fixed.
537
00:35:53,546 --> 00:35:56,627
As you can attest, somebody who's been beta testing for a while for us...
538
00:35:56,627 --> 00:35:57,552
uh
539
00:35:57,552 --> 00:36:03,696
We've really been plugging away trying to create something that's more than just another
AI plugin.
540
00:36:03,696 --> 00:36:09,279
This is something that is designed to solve a real pain point for a lot of people.
541
00:36:09,279 --> 00:36:16,888
And just like you said at the beginning, when I first started using it, I didn't realize
how useful it was and how much I was going to start using it.
542
00:36:16,888 --> 00:36:19,766
I was on the exact same page and we built the thing.
543
00:36:19,766 --> 00:36:21,907
ah I shouldn't even say we.
544
00:36:21,907 --> 00:36:23,408
Karl has been...
545
00:36:23,408 --> 00:36:26,262
the man, the myth, legend here in doing all of this.
546
00:36:26,262 --> 00:36:32,100
I'm just the guy that thought it was really, really cool and is happy to market it.
547
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:36,084
it's an excellent app and it's going to be really, really beneficial, I believe.
548
00:36:36,303 --> 00:36:45,308
I think that that's a key difference you brought up between previous conversations we've
had about this app and now is that it is actually available.
549
00:36:45,308 --> 00:36:47,709
So isn't like something that's coming up.
550
00:36:47,709 --> 00:36:50,170
This is something you can get right now.
551
00:36:50,170 --> 00:36:52,811
So tell everybody how they can access that.
552
00:36:53,114 --> 00:36:54,784
It's live on the App Store.
553
00:36:54,825 --> 00:36:55,395
It doesn't matter.
554
00:36:55,395 --> 00:36:57,105
You got Android, you got Apple.
555
00:36:57,105 --> 00:36:59,006
It doesn't matter where you're looking right now.
556
00:36:59,006 --> 00:37:01,606
You just need to get in there and search code pro.
557
00:37:01,606 --> 00:37:03,257
It's the one with the little yellow house.
558
00:37:03,257 --> 00:37:04,567
Hard to miss it.
559
00:37:04,767 --> 00:37:08,118
And then once you download it, it's got a great walkthrough process.
560
00:37:08,118 --> 00:37:09,769
It'll explain to you how the app works.
561
00:37:09,769 --> 00:37:13,170
And can start burrowing in and start asking questions right away.
562
00:37:13,170 --> 00:37:16,177
uh Get a chance to figure out if you really, really like it.
563
00:37:16,177 --> 00:37:22,332
And I guarantee, after giving it a try for a little while, you're going to find a million
different reasons to start pulling it out and going,
564
00:37:22,332 --> 00:37:26,832
Is that code or is that, or how far was that supposed to be exactly?
565
00:37:26,832 --> 00:37:27,832
can't remember that.
566
00:37:27,832 --> 00:37:31,532
But I have the answers now and they're easy to get to, so I'm gonna ask.
567
00:37:32,206 --> 00:37:32,536
Yeah.
568
00:37:32,536 --> 00:37:34,327
search CodePro app.
569
00:37:34,327 --> 00:37:36,138
That'll get you there a little closer.
570
00:37:36,138 --> 00:37:45,304
And if you want direct link to the App Store uh app, you just go to CodePro app.com and
then you can just click Android or Apple and it'll take you right to the App Store and you
571
00:37:45,304 --> 00:37:46,075
can download it.
572
00:37:46,075 --> 00:37:47,596
And I agree with Beau.
573
00:37:47,596 --> 00:37:57,622
It's like, I didn't know how much, how curious I was about code until I had, it was so
easy to look up, you know, I'm on like new bills or specialty inspections and I'm like,
574
00:37:58,082 --> 00:38:01,316
How many, are there nail plates supposed to be over those electrical wires?
575
00:38:01,316 --> 00:38:04,210
And what's the distance from the nail plate to the wire?
576
00:38:04,210 --> 00:38:10,723
And you just looking up all these little things where it's like, you're not quite
confident on it and you can ask those questions and get really good results really quick.
577
00:38:10,723 --> 00:38:12,859
Yeah, you're better than the eye test at this point.
578
00:38:12,859 --> 00:38:14,023
Now are you guys running any
579
00:38:14,023 --> 00:38:22,943
using it, would ask it just dumb questions I knew the answer to just to see, know, dumb
questions about windows, window heights and stuff like that.
580
00:38:22,943 --> 00:38:29,363
I remember asking it that several times, just getting it and like trying to figure out how
to take that and put that into chat GPT.
581
00:38:29,363 --> 00:38:33,383
Like I do whatever, like trying to get my process down, but just kind of testing it out.
582
00:38:33,383 --> 00:38:34,342
See how it works.
583
00:38:34,342 --> 00:38:35,402
I think everybody does that.
584
00:38:35,402 --> 00:38:40,517
Everybody, the first couple of things they do is like, I'm gonna ask it a question I know
the answer to, just to see if it gets it right.
585
00:38:40,517 --> 00:38:43,018
I'm trying to trick it with an answer I know, you know?
586
00:38:43,018 --> 00:38:50,986
I remember um thinking in the beginning, like, damn, I hope these guys can't see this
because I'm like, where is GFCI required?
587
00:38:50,986 --> 00:38:53,629
You know, totally know the answer to that.
588
00:38:53,629 --> 00:38:55,121
And it like spits out the answer.
589
00:38:55,121 --> 00:38:59,134
I'm like testing it, you know, but I got to look at see my questions.
590
00:38:59,134 --> 00:39:02,959
Now, so another question I got, first of all, are you guys offering any specials for
anybody?
591
00:39:02,959 --> 00:39:08,817
Is this a subscription based platform and are you guys running any specials at the launch
right now that people should know about?
592
00:39:08,817 --> 00:39:09,059
I
593
00:39:09,059 --> 00:39:17,599
If you guys are looking for a way to download the apps you're interested in with it, what
you can do is use the Ride Along affiliate code.
594
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:21,939
We're going to have that somewhere in the thingy around here that you guys can click on.
595
00:39:21,939 --> 00:39:27,939
And then of course, if you want to go to the website and kind of take a look at it and get
a chance to download it from there as well, you can.
596
00:39:27,939 --> 00:39:29,539
For now, we're running a special.
597
00:39:29,539 --> 00:39:32,119
We're going to get some discounted tokens at the beginning.
598
00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:34,099
That is a temporary...
599
00:39:35,130 --> 00:39:36,031
Discount for a little bit.
600
00:39:36,031 --> 00:39:38,651
So please get in, download the app, check it out.
601
00:39:38,651 --> 00:39:40,291
We are going to be removing that.
602
00:39:41,111 --> 00:39:42,591
It's while it lasts.
603
00:39:42,684 --> 00:39:44,426
write along is all capital letters.
604
00:39:44,426 --> 00:39:49,854
So when you go to sign up for the app, you can just type that into the affiliate code
field and it'll take you there.
605
00:39:49,854 --> 00:39:51,075
You heard it here first guys.
606
00:39:51,075 --> 00:39:52,776
It's going to be down in the show description.
607
00:39:52,776 --> 00:39:55,828
We'll put the link and then we'll put the code down there as well.
608
00:39:55,828 --> 00:39:57,119
So be sure to go check it out.
609
00:39:57,119 --> 00:39:58,080
This is huge guys.
610
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,361
I'm excited for y'all man.
611
00:39:59,361 --> 00:40:00,062
Seriously.
612
00:40:00,062 --> 00:40:03,254
We've gone from, because we, but we talked about this last year.
613
00:40:03,254 --> 00:40:04,275
It was in concept.
614
00:40:04,275 --> 00:40:06,086
We talked about it at fuel.
615
00:40:06,086 --> 00:40:08,528
It was in development and here we are at launch guys.
616
00:40:08,528 --> 00:40:09,208
I'm excited for y'all.
617
00:40:09,208 --> 00:40:10,269
Congratulations.
618
00:40:10,269 --> 00:40:14,469
been a big pain point for, I know a lot of people is just not understanding codes.
619
00:40:14,469 --> 00:40:18,469
I've got now builders, electricians, plumbers that are coming to me.
620
00:40:18,469 --> 00:40:19,069
Uh, they're there.
621
00:40:19,069 --> 00:40:23,809
It's funny when the builders and the plumbers and the electricians are asking you code
questions.
622
00:40:23,809 --> 00:40:26,829
As I have that happen when I'm on new builds, they'll be, they'll come up to me.
623
00:40:26,829 --> 00:40:27,889
Hey, can you answer this question?
624
00:40:27,889 --> 00:40:28,689
Cause I don't know.
625
00:40:28,689 --> 00:40:30,369
And I bust out code pro right in front of them.
626
00:40:30,369 --> 00:40:33,509
And I started asking questions and it gives me the answer with the amendments.
627
00:40:33,509 --> 00:40:35,129
And they're like, what's that?
628
00:40:35,129 --> 00:40:36,449
I'm like, it's a CodePro app, man.
629
00:40:36,449 --> 00:40:39,245
He's, know, it's like, believe it or not.
630
00:40:39,391 --> 00:40:42,866
Home inspectors are the authority and they are the experts.
631
00:40:42,866 --> 00:40:46,571
Even though we're not code inspectors, people look at us that way and they're going to be
asking these questions.
632
00:40:46,571 --> 00:40:50,146
So it solves the problem for a lot of people.
633
00:40:50,146 --> 00:40:51,878
And that's why I'm very excited about it.
634
00:40:51,878 --> 00:40:56,023
It just adds a lot of value to the building industry because we all need to be better.
635
00:40:56,064 --> 00:40:57,187
We all need to be better.
636
00:40:57,187 --> 00:40:58,308
absolutely, man.
637
00:40:58,308 --> 00:40:58,999
Now that's huge.
638
00:40:58,999 --> 00:41:08,377
Now I have one other question for you guys about it because you mentioned at the top of
the show using code specifically in say a court case if you're called as a professional
639
00:41:08,377 --> 00:41:08,817
witness.
640
00:41:08,817 --> 00:41:22,964
uh Does Code Pro need to go through any sort of state verification or registration to be
considered a verified code source?
641
00:41:22,964 --> 00:41:24,520
platform or something like that?
642
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:30,138
Or is there any liability involved in using it for anything other than citing or sourcing
code?
643
00:41:30,185 --> 00:41:31,566
Yeah, that's a good question, Brad.
644
00:41:31,566 --> 00:41:32,447
We should touch on it.
645
00:41:32,447 --> 00:41:39,834
um Certainly, if you're going to be taking things to court or in some type of legal
fashion, I would go straight to the code document.
646
00:41:39,834 --> 00:41:41,755
CodePro is a great resource.
647
00:41:41,836 --> 00:41:52,645
It helps everybody to understand code better, but there's nothing that supersedes the
actual code source, which is either going to be your ICC uh code document or
648
00:41:52,677 --> 00:41:56,041
It may be the NEC in some cases, the fire code.
649
00:41:56,041 --> 00:41:59,865
then of course, your state or local jurisdictions amendments.
650
00:41:59,865 --> 00:42:01,706
Those are going to be your official sources.
651
00:42:01,706 --> 00:42:03,078
It's just referencing those.
652
00:42:03,078 --> 00:42:09,314
It's like me going to a friend and who is an expert in a particular topic and saying, hey,
can you tell me a little bit about this?
653
00:42:09,314 --> 00:42:10,996
And then them regurgitating it to me.
654
00:42:10,996 --> 00:42:12,032
uh
655
00:42:12,032 --> 00:42:14,181
can tell you where to go find all that.
656
00:42:14,243 --> 00:42:20,156
That's what I was going to say is every single time you ask it a question, it will give
you a link.
657
00:42:20,156 --> 00:42:28,111
You hit the link at the end of that link is the document that you're looking for that that
is referencing.
658
00:42:28,111 --> 00:42:34,464
And so if you are going to be doing the court case, right, you ask it the question
referencing your court case.
659
00:42:34,464 --> 00:42:35,244
It gives you a link.
660
00:42:35,244 --> 00:42:35,925
You click the link.
661
00:42:35,925 --> 00:42:40,107
You now have access to the document that you're referencing for your court case.
662
00:42:40,107 --> 00:42:43,759
And you look like an authority with a lot less work.
663
00:42:43,969 --> 00:42:46,281
This is the thing it's solving for people.
664
00:42:46,281 --> 00:42:49,524
You're getting these answers with ease.
665
00:42:49,524 --> 00:42:58,642
And that was one of the primary reasons why as a home inspector, I didn't know as much
code as I do now is because I would just tell myself, well, you're not a code inspector.
666
00:42:58,642 --> 00:43:07,330
And the honest truth behind that was it's a pain in the ass to look it up and figure out
whether or not I'm even right on the right topic on the right page in the right document
667
00:43:07,330 --> 00:43:10,002
in the right place in the right state for the right amendment, you know?
668
00:43:10,002 --> 00:43:10,783
And...
669
00:43:10,785 --> 00:43:12,077
That's all solved now.
670
00:43:12,077 --> 00:43:13,278
Why wasn't it easier before?
671
00:43:13,278 --> 00:43:14,460
We have the technology to do it.
672
00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:17,083
Why wasn't it in a phone before?
673
00:43:17,655 --> 00:43:20,789
If you looked at all the options before now, they were terrible.
674
00:43:20,789 --> 00:43:22,631
So this solves a big problem.
675
00:43:22,805 --> 00:43:30,678
And if you don't know where to look for code and you don't know anything about code for
your state, like I said, CodePro app website, we took almost a year to develop it.
676
00:43:30,678 --> 00:43:35,340
That is the greatest resource that exists on the internet for state specific building
code.
677
00:43:35,340 --> 00:43:40,912
I know because I spent almost a year searching the internet for state, state specific
building code.
678
00:43:40,912 --> 00:43:45,614
You can go, I created my own basically organization process around code.
679
00:43:45,614 --> 00:43:46,984
There's three different levels.
680
00:43:46,984 --> 00:43:51,551
You have state adopted code, you have local adopted code, and then you have a hybrid.
681
00:43:51,551 --> 00:43:52,402
type model.
682
00:43:52,402 --> 00:43:59,045
So when you go to your state's page, it will tell you, you state adopted, local or hybrid?
683
00:43:59,045 --> 00:44:00,416
And then explains what that is.
684
00:44:00,416 --> 00:44:07,430
And then it has a link like Beau was saying to all the code documents, including your
state specific amendments and where to find those.
685
00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:18,239
Because like I was searching for state specific amendments for Utah, for example, it's so
buried in legal documents within state websites and government.
686
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,810
bureaucracy.
687
00:44:19,810 --> 00:44:27,909
It's just, ridiculous how difficult it is to find documents that we all need access to, to
be safe and to build well.
688
00:44:27,909 --> 00:44:31,160
It's, it's, it's, but we're, trying to make it more accessible.
689
00:44:31,528 --> 00:44:34,485
No, you guys are doing an amazing job with it, seriously.
690
00:44:34,485 --> 00:44:36,668
And again, this is a...
691
00:44:37,064 --> 00:44:45,312
It's important for all of us, a little bit of a pivot here, it's important for all of us
as inspectors to be experts on all things building, even if we're not actively or have
692
00:44:45,312 --> 00:44:53,930
never been active as construction experts or ah laborers in any way, shape or form and
building a home, we got to know about it, right?
693
00:44:53,930 --> 00:44:58,194
But that goes into knowing about not just the code, but also materials.
694
00:44:58,194 --> 00:45:03,218
And Matt, I want to pivot because there's something pretty cool coming up that we're going
to be at here in a couple of weeks.
695
00:45:03,648 --> 00:45:04,918
That is correct.
696
00:45:05,999 --> 00:45:17,262
It's got an acronym that is maybe not so favorable, but we're going to IBS, the
International Builder Show.
697
00:45:17,262 --> 00:45:19,142
I'm super excited about that.
698
00:45:19,142 --> 00:45:22,533
I've been going, this will be my fourth year in a row to go to that show.
699
00:45:22,533 --> 00:45:24,384
Beau, you were there with me last year.
700
00:45:24,384 --> 00:45:28,515
uh That's next year.
701
00:45:28,515 --> 00:45:31,840
yeah, this year's in Orlando, Florida.
702
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,182
the last year for Orlando.
703
00:45:33,182 --> 00:45:35,655
This show kind of just belongs in Vegas.
704
00:45:35,655 --> 00:45:40,959
uh But yeah, I mean, what's that?
705
00:45:40,959 --> 00:45:43,222
It's a CES for all things constructions.
706
00:45:43,222 --> 00:45:44,464
Consumer electronics show.
707
00:45:44,464 --> 00:45:45,896
Yeah, you remember that's a Vegas.
708
00:45:45,896 --> 00:45:48,024
up that convention center when I was there for it.
709
00:45:48,024 --> 00:45:49,526
That's where it fits.
710
00:45:49,715 --> 00:45:52,537
It's just insane.
711
00:45:52,637 --> 00:46:02,843
it's a really, you know, I first went there about four years ago and I thought to myself,
first of all, I was completely overwhelmed, but I thought to myself, what is an inspector
712
00:46:02,843 --> 00:46:03,783
doing here?
713
00:46:03,783 --> 00:46:08,716
know, SASHCO brought me out there and it took me a whole day to figure out what I was
doing there.
714
00:46:08,716 --> 00:46:12,118
And then I figured out like, wow, there's so much to learn here.
715
00:46:12,118 --> 00:46:13,494
There's more to learn here.
716
00:46:13,494 --> 00:46:15,626
I learned more from going there.
717
00:46:15,626 --> 00:46:23,931
and learning about new products and talking to some of the people that are involved in
them, then I do with any inspector CE or the most inspector CE's.
718
00:46:23,931 --> 00:46:37,150
I've already learned all that stuff, you But if I can go to places like the builder show
and learn about what's more going on inside the walls, about up and coming products, I'll
719
00:46:37,150 --> 00:46:40,106
go and see products pop up on new construction.
720
00:46:40,106 --> 00:46:41,777
And it's like, yeah, I know about that.
721
00:46:41,777 --> 00:46:43,859
You know, I've seen that I've seen that in action.
722
00:46:43,859 --> 00:46:49,063
I've seen the people, I know the people that make that product, you know, there's a lot of
that to be had out there.
723
00:46:49,063 --> 00:46:54,237
This is probably the biggest one, uh, you know, build builders show every year.
724
00:46:54,237 --> 00:46:56,138
And, man, it's fantastic.
725
00:46:56,138 --> 00:46:57,600
I am super excited.
726
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:57,950
Hold on.
727
00:46:57,950 --> 00:46:58,700
I got some stuff.
728
00:46:58,700 --> 00:47:02,004
I'm, I'm, I'm giving away some really cool stuff at the show.
729
00:47:02,004 --> 00:47:02,485
Matt.
730
00:47:02,485 --> 00:47:03,417
One of those guitars?
731
00:47:03,417 --> 00:47:05,467
You giving away one of your guitars, buddy?
732
00:47:05,531 --> 00:47:06,904
I'll take one of those.
733
00:47:07,350 --> 00:47:09,052
It couldn't be this, could it?
734
00:47:10,352 --> 00:47:12,073
That one of them.
735
00:47:12,494 --> 00:47:13,314
That's one of them.
736
00:47:13,314 --> 00:47:16,236
Also I've got, I got a couple of booth appearance.
737
00:47:16,236 --> 00:47:18,057
One of them is that the Owens Corning booth.
738
00:47:18,057 --> 00:47:22,692
I've got these really cool uh hats that are designed just for the Florida show.
739
00:47:22,692 --> 00:47:25,562
And I got Owens Corning lumber on the side.
740
00:47:25,562 --> 00:47:29,745
I, somewhere around here, I have another one for the Fusion Air.
741
00:47:29,745 --> 00:47:34,068
You guys, that's a really cool product, but I got some co-branded hats with them.
742
00:47:34,068 --> 00:47:36,850
So I got a hundred uh Owens Corning hats.
743
00:47:36,850 --> 00:47:38,331
got a hundred Fusion Air hats.
744
00:47:38,331 --> 00:47:40,124
uh And then that,
745
00:47:40,124 --> 00:47:45,763
comic book which Beau you were showing you can show them the comic book the Adventures of
inspection man.
746
00:47:45,763 --> 00:47:46,757
Oh, you got it back there.
747
00:47:46,757 --> 00:47:47,069
Hold on.
748
00:47:47,069 --> 00:47:48,161
Yeah, I know, it's back here.
749
00:47:48,161 --> 00:47:50,894
Right here, I got it.
750
00:47:50,995 --> 00:47:53,339
But I'll meld this back for one of the hats.
751
00:47:53,339 --> 00:47:55,563
Do I get one of the hats if I meld this back?
752
00:47:55,563 --> 00:47:56,102
I want...
753
00:47:56,102 --> 00:47:57,224
straight out.
754
00:47:57,869 --> 00:48:01,709
I just want to get a signed copy of this comic book, man.
755
00:48:02,456 --> 00:48:05,096
let you have one of these because you're in it.
756
00:48:05,096 --> 00:48:07,076
Beau makes a cameo in it.
757
00:48:07,076 --> 00:48:08,616
Where are you?
758
00:48:09,036 --> 00:48:09,994
Here's Beau.
759
00:48:09,994 --> 00:48:11,720
I love that you have your own comic book, dude.
760
00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:14,440
Who did you get to do these comic books for you?
761
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,337
This is awesome.
762
00:48:15,337 --> 00:48:16,587
a guess.
763
00:48:17,592 --> 00:48:18,472
in.
764
00:48:18,473 --> 00:48:21,716
Who illustrated it or who printed it?
765
00:48:22,724 --> 00:48:25,425
No, who, was what you use to produce it.
766
00:48:25,425 --> 00:48:26,049
Yeah.
767
00:48:26,049 --> 00:48:27,556
Yeah, how'd you produce this thing?
768
00:48:27,556 --> 00:48:30,176
by chat GPT.
769
00:48:30,176 --> 00:48:36,196
I literally just, um, every, every picture in here was made by Chat GPT.
770
00:48:36,196 --> 00:48:44,276
And then, um, and then, uh, as far as making it, I went to, I just started Googling, uh,
companies that, that do that stuff.
771
00:48:44,276 --> 00:48:52,696
And one of the, one that came up was, think they're called Nick Sam and, um, and yeah, so
they did, they weren't cheap and they actually turned out way better than I even need them
772
00:48:52,696 --> 00:48:55,636
to be thicker paper and everything.
773
00:48:56,662 --> 00:48:59,211
Yeah, they're cool looking man.
774
00:48:59,242 --> 00:49:10,460
And so I'm going to have you guys, if you all follow me here in the next day or so, I'm
going to put together some sheet that shows all the boots I'm going to be at and what I'm
775
00:49:10,460 --> 00:49:11,647
going be giving away and stuff.
776
00:49:11,647 --> 00:49:23,471
And also I heard that Owens Corning uh Owens Corning Lumber, in addition to the hats that
I have, they are going to be giving away a thermal camera while I'm there as well.
777
00:49:24,052 --> 00:49:25,139
It's a FLIR.
778
00:49:25,139 --> 00:49:34,546
I gotta say Matt, if you have a man cave and you don't have a, it's not supposed to do
that comic book in your man cave, you're just doing it wrong.
779
00:49:34,546 --> 00:49:35,744
You're just doing it wrong.
780
00:49:35,744 --> 00:49:37,591
There's only one way you can get them.
781
00:49:37,591 --> 00:49:38,764
Yeah, yeah.
782
00:49:38,764 --> 00:49:41,096
There's only one way to do it right.
783
00:49:41,218 --> 00:49:42,356
You finally got something.
784
00:49:42,356 --> 00:49:45,336
isn't even all that much for, uh, for IBS.
785
00:49:45,336 --> 00:49:48,396
It cost isn't even all that much for IBS.
786
00:49:48,396 --> 00:49:50,476
It's only like 195 still.
787
00:49:50,476 --> 00:50:00,076
So I would highly recommend if you're a Florida home inspector and spit in distance of
Orlando that you, that you show up seriously, go ahead, get registered, come on out.
788
00:50:00,096 --> 00:50:08,096
Uh, again, like you said, Matt, it's going to be really cool to start seeing stuff that's
being actively produced right now that we're going to all start seeing in the field here
789
00:50:08,096 --> 00:50:09,096
in short order.
790
00:50:09,096 --> 00:50:09,180
So.
791
00:50:09,180 --> 00:50:14,762
Beau can attest, and not that I'm like, I don't, I don't work for the international
builder show.
792
00:50:14,762 --> 00:50:15,762
So, I mean, it doesn't matter.
793
00:50:15,762 --> 00:50:21,624
want you to go cause I want you to get the knowledge, but also Beau can attest that like,
is a mecca for content.
794
00:50:21,624 --> 00:50:27,426
If you're a content creating home inspector or content creator period in regards to like
homes at all.
795
00:50:28,206 --> 00:50:30,447
yeah, totally.
796
00:50:30,447 --> 00:50:32,568
Networking is really my favorite part.
797
00:50:32,904 --> 00:50:38,008
Even if it's like, it's just such a great conglomeration of things.
798
00:50:38,008 --> 00:50:46,533
You get to learn about all the new products that are coming out and that all of the new
stuff that they're going to be putting on houses so that as you're walking through new
799
00:50:46,533 --> 00:50:47,814
construction, you see something new.
800
00:50:47,814 --> 00:50:49,215
go, I've seen that.
801
00:50:49,215 --> 00:50:50,846
I saw the company that's making that stuff.
802
00:50:50,846 --> 00:50:53,309
Got to talk to them about how it's made and how to apply it.
803
00:50:53,309 --> 00:50:57,870
These guys aren't even installing it right because I saw how to install it correctly at
the show.
804
00:50:57,870 --> 00:51:06,313
And then uh while I was there, I met uh Hydro Block, which is a company here in Utah
that's manufacturing exterior sheathing that's waterproof.
805
00:51:06,313 --> 00:51:12,974
And it's like staged to be the next replacement for most of the exterior sheathing uh on
the commercial buildings here in the city of Utah.
806
00:51:12,974 --> 00:51:18,656
And I know the guys that are running that company now and met them and started networking.
807
00:51:18,656 --> 00:51:22,991
So just the connections and network that you can uh develop by going to an event like
that.
808
00:51:22,991 --> 00:51:32,388
is priceless, even if it's not gonna benefit you directly, your trade directly, if it has
anything to do with construction, it does.
809
00:51:32,388 --> 00:51:33,889
You're just thinking wrong.
810
00:51:34,638 --> 00:51:35,269
Love it.
811
00:51:35,269 --> 00:51:37,911
And Karl and Beau, thank you so much for being here.
812
00:51:37,911 --> 00:51:39,062
It's been good to see you guys again.
813
00:51:39,062 --> 00:51:44,015
Always awesome to talk with you all just in general, but always so great to have you both
on the show, truly.
814
00:51:44,442 --> 00:51:44,922
Thanks, Brad.
815
00:51:44,922 --> 00:51:45,582
Really appreciate it.
816
00:51:45,582 --> 00:51:51,862
If anybody wants to get a hold of Beau or I, think everybody probably knows Beau from
Instagram.
817
00:51:51,962 --> 00:52:03,302
If you want to get a hold of me, got questions about CodePro or AI, you could reach out
via info at codeproapp.com and we keep up with our emails.
818
00:52:03,302 --> 00:52:05,282
So shoot me a message anytime.
819
00:52:05,328 --> 00:52:09,043
and throw your handle out there to case one or two people want to follow you.
820
00:52:09,564 --> 00:52:12,115
I don't, I don't, nobody knows about me.
821
00:52:12,115 --> 00:52:15,537
uh I'm home inspector underscore Salt Lake.
822
00:52:16,759 --> 00:52:24,534
And I'm on uh Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and I've got a budding YouTube page called
Homeowners University.
823
00:52:25,113 --> 00:52:26,487
Hey, good stuff, man.
824
00:52:26,487 --> 00:52:27,232
That's awesome.
825
00:52:27,232 --> 00:52:33,535
And you also ride skis behind horses in flamboyant jackets, if I'm not mistaken.
826
00:52:33,535 --> 00:52:41,002
yes, I do uh ski-jorning professionally here at the Pro Ski-Jor uh Circuit.
827
00:52:41,002 --> 00:52:46,898
It's a kind of a Northwest uh American thing, Montana, Idaho, and Utah, they got the
circuit.
828
00:52:46,898 --> 00:52:54,465
So uh my company uh sponsors me as a pro in that event, and I have crashed at every event
I've been to so far.
829
00:52:54,465 --> 00:52:56,827
So I'm doing great this year, guys.
830
00:52:57,313 --> 00:52:58,045
it's tough, man.
831
00:52:58,045 --> 00:53:00,864
Here's to staying on your feet in this competition, man.
832
00:53:00,864 --> 00:53:01,948
yeah.
833
00:53:02,436 --> 00:53:04,447
Hey, I gotta throw it out there real quick guys.
834
00:53:04,447 --> 00:53:11,291
uh CodePro app has developed a new tool for doing solar inspections.
835
00:53:11,891 --> 00:53:19,936
So I'm just saying if you guys wanna start to monetize all the solar panels that are on
these people's roofs and really add value to your clients in that way, we've rolled it out
836
00:53:19,936 --> 00:53:20,496
in Hawaii.
837
00:53:20,496 --> 00:53:21,837
We're doing very well with it.
838
00:53:21,837 --> 00:53:23,152
A lot of people are adding it on.
839
00:53:23,152 --> 00:53:26,980
It's $350 and the inspection takes us 30, 45 minutes to do it.
840
00:53:27,260 --> 00:53:31,262
That information is at solar.codeproapp.com.
841
00:53:31,460 --> 00:53:33,769
I'm running, I'm here in Utah.
842
00:53:34,135 --> 00:53:34,574
Yep.
843
00:53:34,574 --> 00:53:37,449
Yeah, yeah, it could be huge for Florida for sure.
844
00:53:38,189 --> 00:53:39,741
Yeah, very cool guys.
845
00:53:39,741 --> 00:53:41,193
Well, we appreciate it guys.
846
00:53:41,193 --> 00:53:42,585
Thank you so much for being here.
847
00:53:42,585 --> 00:53:43,086
Matt.
848
00:53:43,086 --> 00:53:44,247
Good to see as ever.
849
00:53:44,247 --> 00:53:47,722
I'll see you down in Orlando and thank you everybody for watching.
850
00:53:47,722 --> 00:53:50,017
We'll see you all next time right here on.
851
00:53:50,363 --> 00:53:51,370
Bye long.
852
00:53:51,631 --> 00:53:52,573
You got it.
853
00:53:52,585 --> 00:53:53,652
Thanks, boys.